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Topic: Fox Business Channel Fails
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| m_ovies71 | Posted – 10/13/2007 11:38:20 AM | show profile The Fox Business Channel is a model for disaster. The hype leading up to its launch is mediocre at best, with basic, undazzling ads, and uninteresting commercials that scream of 'no talent in the graphics division.' The talent they've hired are 'B' standard models who should be in a dumbed-down edition of Playboy magazine. True teleprompter readers at best, and leg models at worst. The disconnect of this new endeavor is so apparent, the three business boys Cavuto, Ailes and Murdoch, are focusing the station for 'main street' America, not 'Wall Street.' What can we learn from such a statement? News Flash boys, 'main street' America does not exist anymore. Sure they do on Long Island, or Beverly Hills, but in middle America, 'main street' has been obliterated. Do you think someone who has lost their job to outsourcing, or illegal immigration is going to give a damn what 'pie in the sky' statements and/or stories FBC is going to run (as evidence on FNC), about how well the economy is doing? It's reprehensible to think that for the past six years, FNC business shows can barely mutter a negative word regarding the hardships that are truly apparent in the United States today. Now 'main street' America (which doesn't exist) is going to have an entire ficticious forum, FBC, to spoon feed them syrupy sugar-coated solutions of biased opinions, slanted facts, and oh, legs... Good luck boys, the endeavor will fail, and fail profoundly. CNBC doesn't lie at least to their viewers; they equivocally state they are for 'Wall Street.' That's honesty. That's their success. You cannot be successful on presumptions of something that does not exist this day and age. I know how much Ruppy and Rog would love to go back to the days of Beaver on main street, but it just ain't going to happen boys. I'm listening to my gut, and that's what 'real' people do in the 'real' world of living day to day, and week to week. We don't listen to pinheads preaching what we should be feeling, or what it's 'really' like out there for everybody, we listen to our gut, our friends, our families. We see what's going on in communities, and what we see always usually contradicts what the talking heads are preaching, what we 'should' believe, or 'feel'. That is, 'oh, the economy is great!' Sure boys. Sure. For Wall Street, not main street (just to clarify). Is it true, that overnight, the FBC is going to be running episodes of 'Leave It to Beaver?' Its just a rumor I've heard... |
| LurkerLou | Posted – 10/13/2007 3:56:09 PM | show profile Look at this nut, He typed out all that ranting and raving and whining and moaning. Probably the same kool-aid drinker that said FNC would fail. Hahahaha |
| Wilum | Posted – 10/13/2007 5:36:12 PM | show profile Except there was a tangible market for Fox News, not some fantasy "Main Street" audience. |
| JIMBO99 | Posted – 10/13/2007 7:04:13 PM | show profile Remember????????? < All the Libs from the MSM said that FOXNEWS would fail too..... 'member that? |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 10/13/2007 7:48:17 PM | show profile FOX has failed to deliver fair and balanced news. It's a crime! |
| liberalbasher03 | Posted – 10/13/2007 9:17:53 PM | show profile More lib destruction coming!!!!!!!! With the Fox Business Channel we will finally get some balanced business news. I love Fox!!!!!!!!! Booyah...... |
| liberalbasher03 | Posted – 10/13/2007 9:21:18 PM | show profile CNN-Communist News Network. Hey liberals, remember how your bible show--CNN has gotten mashed by Fox News? Now Fox will control the business news airwaves shortly. Life is good!!!!!!!!! |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 10/13/2007 11:07:49 PM | show profile FOX News is serious competition for the Cartoon Network. Fair and Funny.. |
| Wilum | Posted – 10/14/2007 7:15:52 AM | show profile What are you guys getting so excited about? Don't you need a job and some money to even think about turning on a financial news network? |
| otf70 | Posted – 10/14/2007 12:34:31 PM | show profile | email poster New business channel No matter how the new business channel starts it is bound to be better than CNBC. Most of their talking heads are the most arrigot people I have ever seen. I am sick of CNBC and look forward to something better. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 10/14/2007 12:49:07 PM | show profile arrigot ? Do you mean apricot? |
| charlar56 | Posted – 10/14/2007 1:30:33 PM | show profile | email poster it takes time the expectations of fox news is high but not to the point that they have to be number one in ratings the first few months. far from it. they start off in second place off the bat. ailes is a patient man , cnbc is not going anywhere fast. fox has them in their in its sights. media talking heads would love to see them stumble which they might at first but nothing in this business is short term. look how many times cnbc has morphed over the years and the had no competition. fbn needs to be and will be heavily critiqued like no one before them. they will welcome that i am sure. this is not a race to the finish nor is the last man standing. if cnbc was doing such a cracker jack job murdoch would not entered into the market in the first place. patience is a virtue. |
| Vast Right-Wing Conspirator | Posted – 10/14/2007 10:42:59 PM | show profile | email poster What a dimwit Another one of these "the sky is falling" idiots immune to every bit of evidence of an uprecendented roaring economy because he just "doesn't feel good." What a dolt. Record stock market. Record number of people working. Deficit shrunk to near-nothing. Real wages rising for years on end. No matter. "I DON'T FEEL SECURE! WAAAHHH! I'M LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK! WAAAAHHHH!" My Hoffer quote tag applies to this dolt and his ilk in spades. Get a life. VRWC ------ "The untalented are more at ease in a society that gives them valid alibis for not achieving than in one where opportunities are abundant. In an affluent society, the alienated who clamor for power are largely untalented people who cannot make use of the unprecedented opportunities for self-realization, and cannot escape the confrontation with an ineffectual self. " -- Eric Hoffer |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 10/14/2007 11:56:31 PM | show profile 'Deficit shrunk to near-nothing. ' Did I really read this or is this my imagination. What an mindless fool. How about 9 trillion! |
| m_ovies71 | Posted – 10/15/2007 6:04:04 AM | show profile Vast Right-Wing Conspirator Reading is good. Please begin to read. Pay attention to the events around you, and in the world today. Paying attention helps one learn, as does reading. Finally, lose the arrogance, it just reaffirms and tries to compensate for your lack of knowledge in today's world. Just some thoughts. |
| surfpig44 | Posted – 10/22/2007 3:26:50 PM | show profile Never forget -- FBN is Murdoch's baby -- not Ailes Ailes knew -- and knows -- that even if FBN is a "homerun".. in the business space of cable, that's tantamount to a bunt. He tried for years to talk Rupert out of it .. that's why it took so long. But in the end -- Ailes lost that fight.. and may well end his career now with a clunker.. rather than with the grand slam this is Fox News. Bottom Line: FBN aint FNC.. and the bias and viewer base that ultimately allowed FNC to topple CNN don't exist in the business space. |
| jazzy | Posted – 10/22/2007 3:34:17 PM | show profile surfpig actually it IS Ailes's baby... its his brainchild just like cnbc was his brainchild back when.... rupert is the $$ machine.... |
| mTTo | Posted – 10/22/2007 5:10:38 PM | show profile FBN's future I see FBN winding up as a 'supplement' to FNC - kind of like (pardon the analogy) CNN HN is to CNN. Ultimately, I think it will just cannibalize a small part of FNC's audience of hard core right-wingers who despise the MSM in any form and may have a passing interest in business news. The problem with the whole Main Street audience approach is that there probably aren't a lot of TV viewers on Main Street who give two cents about business news on a daily/hourly/minute-by-minute basis. How often does CNBC 'scratch' in the ratings? CNBC can always fall back on the OOH viewership, but will FBN be able to make the same argument? CNBC's viewers (those rich elite snobs) also have some of the highest HH incomes among all TV viewers, so CNBC can make big bucks from ad revenue. It will be interesting to see the demographics on the FBN viewers in a year or so. In my view, if you care about business news enough to watch a business channel (regularly), you probably know what a yield curve is...and you probably can live without a Naked Cowboy in Times Square. Having said all that, FBN isn't carried by my cable company, so I haven't seen any programming yet... I would like to check it out. Someday... |
| TruthOut | Posted – 10/23/2007 8:29:41 AM | show profile CNBC's ratings are already down Last week's rating show a definite hit in their numbers, the same week FBN launched. The ratings won't be in on FBN for months but it's apparent that something is already making an impact on CNBC's ratings. Coincidence? I think not. |
| surfpig44 | Posted – 10/23/2007 1:58:49 PM | show profile Jazzy Loves Truthout jazzy -- you're worng, bud Rupert has long sought the WSJ and a link up with a biz news b'cast outlet.. but it was Ailes -- the brainchild -- who tried unsuccessfully for 2+ years to talk him out of it. and truthout -- you're wrong too.. CNBC has a great week --- as it always does when the stock market is volatile -- (for you Fox watchers who missed it -- the market got hammered last week) |
| TruthOut | Posted – 10/24/2007 1:27:22 PM | show profile Wrong. Their ratings were down from the week before. That's not doing great. They SHOULD have had higher ratings considering the dip the market took last week but go ahead, lie about their ratings if you want and believe that somehow FBN had nothing to do with that. |
| _Anonymous_ | Posted – 10/24/2007 2:13:46 PM | show profile Who the heck compares ratings from "the week prior"? That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard...and sounds like a classic Fox hit job. And if you're REALLY going to get nit picky, CNBC was UP in the 25-54 demo last week, you know...the demo you all seem to live by... |
| anperkins | Posted – 10/24/2007 5:12:50 PM | show profile WP=Trends Incidental ratings numbers are almost meaningless without a baseline context. Week Prior will hints at whether the audience is sampling, sampling and cume-ing, or perhaps staying with prior choices. FBN will take a good while to settle in and may have the effect of cannibalizing FNC to some extent. FBN appears to be targeted at the same approximately 36% of the cable news universe that FNC targets. I sample FBN now and then but always return to CNBC because I know it and I am comfortable there. But economics like everything else has political implications and it is no-doubt an attempt by Roger Ailes to develop an EXCLUSIVE cume with his existing FNC and keep the audience in the family. It must be remembered that Ailes always pimps for the GOP and FNC/FBN is a tactical rather than a broad strategic move to keep the talk happy. Other viewers may develop a a penchant for hard right, politically-charged economic reporting, but it seems a bit over the top to me. But then that's what I have always thought about FNC. So I watch with interest all numbers right now. |
