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Topic: politics and abortion (and not tv news)
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| soulman | Posted – 10/29/2007 4:56:39 PM | show profile I love Kiran. She's a great role model for all of us liberals out here. She is a great representative of the pro-choice/pro-woman view, and I'm thrilled at the great deal of respect that she always shows towards the two most powerful women in our gov't, Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer. I've seen a few of the interviews she's done with these two ladies and Kiran must be a huge supporter. Now, what's with the hair extensions? |
| Olbypocrisy | Posted – 10/29/2007 5:10:49 PM | show profile Olbermann turns orange.Can't bet that. |
| Olbypocrisy | Posted – 10/29/2007 5:11:24 PM | show profile "beat" |
| FrankLobo | Posted – 10/29/2007 8:15:37 PM | show profile "She is a great representative of the pro-choice/pro-woman view" -unless she wants to kill her baby and that baby is a female. It doesnt get more "anti-woman" than that. |
| soulman | Posted – 10/29/2007 8:45:45 PM | show profile Lobo, I'm a male, but judging by a lot of the comments made by women concerning abortion, they don't think about this as killing. They have hopes and dreams to fulfill, and that blob, or mass of tissue as they call it, will never take precedence over what they want. It's just a part of the woman's body, not a separate person. Look, everything that could possibly turn a person against abortion is out there for all to see, pictures and descriptions included. If one is still pro-choice at this juncture, then I would say that it is really a matter of control and independence. And if one doesn't consider that blob inside a unique, living and breathing being, then there's no crime in ending what never was to begin with. In getting back to Chetry, it's no wonder she didn't renew with the GOP network. I think Ailes is pro-life, and I can bet that Cnn has connections to every liberal outfit and organization there is. Perfect fit for Kiran. She said working for Cnn was a dream come true. You go girl! |
| FrankLobo | Posted – 10/29/2007 9:22:56 PM | show profile If one is "Pro-Abortion" thats fine... but dont hide behind "choice". Liberals are NOT for choice. They dont want you to have a "choice" in regards to school vouchers. They dont want you to have a "choice" in regards to Social Security. They dont want you to have a "choice" in regards to taxes. They dont want you to have a "choice" in regards to guns. The DO want you to be able to kill your child. Thats fine. Just call it what it is- the deliberate killing of a human life. A "choice" to kill. |
| Olbypocrisy | Posted – 10/29/2007 9:39:46 PM | show profile Democrats are all for the deliberate killing of a human life. Has long has you call it abortion or choice. If you call it the death penalty,democrats are against it. |
| soulman | Posted – 10/29/2007 9:41:35 PM | show profile Lobo, But "choice" sounds so much better than "killing". I don't think most women think of abortion as killing. If they did, I don't honestly think they would go through with it. They just see that "thing" as a part of their bodies, something which cannot exist without them. Lots of women don't see that "glob of cells" as holding as much importance as they. The already walking, talking and liberated woman is all powerful compared to that floating mass inside their wombs. The woman holds all the cards and decides what to do with them. If you hear people talk today, they use a very often repeated phrase when talking of abortion rights-"a woman's right to choose". Everyone uses it, from politicians to news anchors and everyday citizens. Notice that the word "abortion" is not used. As I said before, most who favor abortion rights don't really see it as killing, because if there were millions of women in this country who saw nothing wrong with killing an innocent human, then I'd say there was really something wrong with these ladies. It's not "killing" to pro-choicers, but instead exercising a simple choice. The mass is vacuumed from the womb and that's that. No more problem or inconvenience. Now on to their happy and productive lives. You made some good points Lobo, but at the end of the day, abortion will always be legal. Women are not going to throw away their free and easy sex lives, big careers in the boardroom and "running with the big boys" mentality for some helpless piece of tissue that could mess up the rest of their lives. That's the reality. |
| soulman | Posted – 10/29/2007 9:55:55 PM | show profile Olby, Yes, liberals are largely against the death penalty for the worst kind of murdering thugs and pedophiles while at the same time marching on Washington to demand their rights to have their babies dismantled and removed from their wombs, piece by piece. It does seem hypocritical until you realize that most abortion supporters do not think of the abortion procedure as killing. That "thing" that occupies their womb does not meet the criteria of a human life. It's like a spare part, and if they decide they don't want it any longer, they can dispose of it. Forget sacrificing nine months of life to carry it to term. In this feminist, career driven society, nine months is much too long to put things on hold. See, to pro-choicers, life isn't a miracle given by God, but instead something that she and her partner solely made on their own, which in turn gives them total control over whether it gets life or death. They don't think about the uniqueness of each soul or the one and only genetic code that each of us possesses. Pro-choicers don't see anything but an object. If they do consider abortion as a killing of innocent human life and still continue to demand the right to end it, then I do have questions as to the sanity and conscience of these people. |
| mb_ pip | Posted – 10/30/2007 10:20:57 AM | show profile | email poster moved from tv news and topic name changed to reflect contents. Let's keep it civil, okay folks? |
| seeattleme | Posted – 10/30/2007 11:05:15 AM | show profile what's hysterical about the prolifers is that they do nothing to help children after they're born. Can someone tell me what happened to that Children's health insurance bill again? And No Child Left Behind? Yeah. That's been a winner. Filled up those drop out factories right quick. More uneducated unemployable teenagers, with lots of time on their hands to get pregnant and have babies so they "can know what it is to be loved." Then they take the kid to a drug buy and the dealers shoot the kid in the head while he's sitting in his carseat. Or mom's boyfriend takes the kid into the swamps in Florida and feeds her to alligators. Or the NYC mom, in a fit, breaks the two year old boy's arm, leg, ruptures his spleen, etc because he's not potty training right. These are all actual things that happen to children born to unfit, unprepared parents. Why don't you pro-lifers do more about the kids already born in this country who are in crisis? Because I'm pretty sure by ANY definition this constitutes a life. |
| beenthere | Posted – 10/30/2007 12:38:42 PM | show profile I've always thought that all MEN at the age of 15 should get a vasectomy. Then when they prove the can be 100% responsible financially, emotionally, and spiritually for a child, can have the procedure reversed. But by that time, the human race would die out. At least there would be no abortions, right? Right. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 10/30/2007 12:53:24 PM | show profile Olby had one yet it still spawn Frank. |
| astrahook | Posted – 10/30/2007 1:34:15 PM | show profile olby and frank...a bromance made in heaven |
| keltoi2 | Posted – 10/30/2007 2:22:43 PM | show profile Hey Frank, seeing as how you're all for "choice", I don't want my taxes going to Bush's Iraq war, bogus weapons boondoggles like Star Wars, $18 billion in oil giveaways, hundreds of billions more in corporate welfare, or the trillion dollar giveaway to the richest 2 percent in America. Fair enough? |
