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| JIMBO99 | Posted – 11/20/2007 8:32:52 PM | show profile OH! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LIBS.............. "Olbermann's November With a few days left in the Nielsen ratings month of November, Countdown with Keith Olbermann is trending down in one measurement. From Oct. 29 to Nov. 16, vs. the same time period last year, Countdown is down 6% in the A25-54 demo (live +SD). If this continues, it will be the first time since September 2006 that Olbermann has not seen monthly growth in the all-important demo." |
| bill26 | Posted – 11/20/2007 9:08:06 PM | show profile Numbers speak for themselves Here are running charts of the O'Reilly vs. Olberman ratings battle, for those who might have forgotten where to find them: http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/oreillyvsolbermann/ Enjoy. |
| CoolHankPuke | Posted – 11/21/2007 2:09:55 AM | show profile Not a Shock Keith "Lobo" Olbermann's success relies upon US Soldier's dying in Iraq. They're not dying so much anymore, so Keith Suffers. Karma's a bitch. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 11/21/2007 9:04:27 AM | show profile Olbermann still a giant in truth category. O'Reilly Worst person in the World 7 years running. |
| LikestheNumbers | Posted – 11/21/2007 1:41:31 PM | show profile Analysis helps the numbers Yes, the raw numbers say Olbermann is down in the key demo... but the numbers don't paint a clear picture. In addition to the election night coverage, November also saw the CNN Democratic Debate ratings coup and if we extrapolate November without the election coverage and CNN debate, he's not doing too bad. More importantly, Olbermann is definitely alone at MSNBC and has neither a helpful lead-in (Hardball with Chris Matthews which has been hurting for a while) nor a follow-up show that many want to watch (Dan Abrams, trying to beat Tucker for worst ratings on MSNBC weekday evenings). When we look at Olbermann through the raw numbers, things look slightly down, but when we do some analysis at the numbers... things aren't that bad and they certainly look brighter when you consider the election cycle is heating up, debates will stop swinging the numbers in late January, the writer's strike weakens broadcast television at 8 PM (some well-placed NBC advertisements might help keep the broadcast numbers at least within the NBC networks), and he continues to get exposure on Sunday Night Football which features better games as the season starts to get interesting. I think November is more of a blip, although the rest of the month might prove me wrong (probably not likely given the December showdown on war funding that will start to build after Thanksgiving, breaking stories from the White House, and more congressional hearings, a likely ratings benefit for Olbermann). Given the recent trends, it looks like Olbermann will continue to build through 2007 and 2008, but the real question is: If the Democrats win the White House and control of both houses... will he even be relevant to the new "majority" or will his focus on taking on those in power become stale/overbearing? |
| JIMBO99 | Posted – 11/21/2007 3:45:54 PM | show profile "Hope Springs Eternal"...Spot on Frank The phony ego reminds me of the story about the flea floating down the Chicago river on his back,on a warm Summer day, with a little woody on....and as he approached the draw-bridge he yelled up to the bridge tender"Better raise it up all the way Pal,I'm coming through" |
| newfrickinshow | Posted – 11/22/2007 5:44:46 AM | show profile Number one for over seven years in peddling hate. He's a less radical and toned-down version of Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. Who are in themselves a very slightly toned down version of Fred Phelps, just with more causes and people to blame. A popular slogan with Fred Phelps is 'Thank God for AIDS." Falwell once said ?AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals.? And Bill goes on his show, whining and bitching about some cartoonists making fun of him after he died. I said good. Jerry Falwell was a hate-peddling, psychotic, rampaging, evil ass and was trying to create an army of hate-peddling, psychotic, rampaging, evil asses to follow in his footsteps. I think Bill O'Reilly had somewhat bought into his rhetoric. He says that he doesn't believe that Americans don't want or like "haters." Bill and Rush's high ratings prove that wrong. People want to hear hate, because it gives them someone else to fear and blame for their problems. Bill knows this to be true, that's why he does it. It is why he has a segment every night known as the 'Talking Points Memo' which is little more than directives and instructions on how and who to hate. The difference is he sells himself as 'fair and balance' and equal. Bullocks. I notice a certain zeal when he can rip into a SP for saying something stupid. But he never attacks conservative for anything big. He'll do the token right jab here and there for some minor piece of crap statement, but he avoids the real stuff like the plague. For example, something I've never heard Bill-O go after: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvx73OawqBw |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 11/22/2007 10:53:07 AM | show profile O'Reilly and Limbaugh do well with a certain populace of illiterate hate-loving idiots. These are those bulbous ass men who sit around in soiled diapers all day looking for a way out of this world. |
| drgonzo | Posted – 11/22/2007 12:07:52 PM | show profile newfrick What planet are you living on? Have you ever listened to O'Reilly? What kind of hate does he spew? Do you mean when he goes after crooked judges who give nothing but probation to child rapists? Do you mean when he goes after Rosie O'Donnel for saying moronic things? Ok, so you're probably the type who thinks Rosie is a genius. But tell me, do you spend as much time condemning Olbermann as a hate monger? He has a little segment called "Worst person in the world" where he does his best to openly smear others (usually O'Reilly, in an obsessive, creepy sort of way). If you don't mind his segment, you're truly a loony hypocrite who can't see things objectively. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 11/22/2007 1:11:00 PM | show profile drgonzo - you make a mockery of our man Hunter S. - he'd canon fire a cabbage up your insight valve for such a stupid post. O'Reilly is a hate-monger. He targets what her perceives liberal judges who apply the law as written for sport. It has nothing to do with passion for justice. Rosie is an easy target. Any loud mouth can get a rise from chasing her. O'Reilly dumps on those serving in Iraq in favor of those who sent so many to their death needlessly. His day will come! |
| newfrickinshow | Posted – 11/22/2007 6:50:21 PM | show profile You've got to be kidding me. The whole point of the Talking Points Memo is spewing hatred. It's why he insults someone every 7 seconds. And on top of that, Bill's almost as honest during those memos as a used car salesman. The ACLU, liberals, Mark Cuban, San Fransisco, liberals, democrats, media matters, liberals, anyone who disagrees with George Bush, Hollywood, liberals, NBC, secularists, and did I mention liberals? All of them are relentless targets by Bill and his dishonesty of recent weeks. Most of what he says here is nothing but misrepresentation, lies, and insults. Remember, one of the latter every 7 seconds. All he does for the first couple minutes of The Factor is spread fear and hatred. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 11/22/2007 7:01:17 PM | show profile newfriscken - I can only handle about five minutes of the opening segment before tossing sod at the jerk. He purposely attacks easy targets and makes noise of the inconsequential. His Mark Cuban call to arms was hilarious. Let's get boffo head Laura the Lizard and march up and down the sidelines at a Dallas Mavericks game and accuse Cuban of sleeping with the enemy. That would be about the time fans would strangle the old fart and throw him in a dumpster of spent horse hooves. |
| newfrickinshow | Posted – 11/22/2007 8:46:16 PM | show profile Short-term memory I've gone over and over with Bill O'Reilly lies. And it's always countered with some crap along the lines of Bill's an opinion guy, so it's all right. Here we go. -George Soros has never given a dime to Media Matters. Not directly or indirectly. -O'REILLY: Well, at least Carlson is honest, which is more than you can say for The New York Times. Its TV reporter, Jacques Steinberg, actually wrote an article that says MSNBC is competitive with "The Factor" at 8:00 p.m. Now Mr. Steinberg knows that is not true. He knows that's a lie, but he wrote it anyway. Here is the truth: In October, MSNBC had no overall ratings growth at 8:00 p.m. None. In the past five weeks, "The Factor" has beaten them by 225 percent in total audience and 100 percent in the key demo. Margins of victory rarely come bigger than that. Again, Steinberg knows the score, but chose to deceive the public -- disgraceful. Here is the quote from the actual NY Times article: On some nights recently, Mr. Olbermann has even come tantalizingly close to surpassing the ratings of the host he describes as his nemesis, Bill O'Reilly on Fox News, at least among viewers ages 25 to 54, which is the demographic cable news advertisers prefer. Most of the time, though, Mr. O'Reilly outdraws Mr. Olbermann by about 1.5 million viewers over all at the same hour, according to Nielsen Media Research. |
| Olbypocrisy | Posted – 11/22/2007 10:04:19 PM | show profile "who sit around in soiled diapers all day " crimedog thats you isn't it??? newfrickinshow ----- -George Soros has never given a dime to Media Matters. Not directly or indirectly. More lies from someone who complains FNC/BOR lies. |
| newfrickinshow | Posted – 11/22/2007 10:04:21 PM | show profile Come on, Media Matters is a not-for-profit organization. Meaning their financial statements are PUBLIC domain. There have been no donations, Bill just made up a half-assed conspiracy theory. I've seen it, and it's utter crap. It's supposedly that Soros' charity One Society Institute donates to Tides Foundation. Then Tides Foundation turns around and donates it to Media Matters. Only problem is, every dollar Soros donates to Tides is earmarked for non-media matters programming. The money goes to thing like criminal rehab, gun violence provention, and anti-death penalty. Bill is creating this myth because Media Matters makes him look bad by listening to what he says and making it easily accessible. He did the same thing and tried to sue Al Franken over Lies, and Lying Liars. The suit was literally laughed out of court. And Bill lies because he accused Steinberg of deceiving the public. When Steinberg's information was pretty much dead-on accurate. He said Bill lost in the ratings war by a million-and-a-half. He said that Olbermann was only competitive in the key demo. Bill misreprestented what Steinberg said (a classic technique of the crooked used car salesman). Leaving out key info, like when the salesman said the mechanic just checked the engine. Leaving out that the mechanic found out it needed to be replaced. Intentionally misleading about what the NY Times arcticle said, in order to make the NY Times look bad. |
| Olbypocrisy | Posted – 11/22/2007 10:08:05 PM | show profile Don't forget Senator Leaky Leahy A brief overview of Senator Leaky Leahy's record of divulging secrets: * Senator Pat Leahy was annoyed with the Reagan administration's war on terrorism in the 1980s. At the time he was vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. Therefore, "Leaky Leahy," threatened to sabotage classified strategies he didn't like. * Leahy "inadvertently" disclosed a top-secret communications intercept during a 1985 television interview. The intercept had made possible the capture of the Arab terrorists who had hijacked the cruise ship Achille Lauro and murdered American citizen. But Leahy's leak he cost the life of at least one Egyptian "asset" involved in the operation. * In July 1987, it was reported that Leahy leaked secret information about a 1986 covert operation planned by the Reagan administration to topple Libya's Moammar Gaddhafi. US intelligence officials stated that Leahy sent a written threat to expose the operation directly to then-CIA Director William Casey. Weeks later, news of the secret plan turned up in the Washington Post, causing it to be aborted. * A year later, as the Senate was preparing to hold hearings on the Iran-Contra scandal, Leahy had to resign his Intelligence Committee post after he was caught leaking secret information to a reporter. The Vermont Democrat's Iran-Contra leak was considered to be one of the most serious breaches of secrecy in the committee's 28-year history. After Leahy's resignation, the Senate Intelligence Committee decided to restrict access to committee documents to a security-enhanced meeting room. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 11/22/2007 10:18:55 PM | show profile 'Did someone wake the brain dead?' news - don't waste your time posting O'Reilly lies for Frank's sake. It's been done on numerous occasions. Frank just buries his head and plows on. Olby just returned from rimming a neighboor's turkey for kicks. |
| Olbypocrisy | Posted – 11/22/2007 10:19:41 PM | show profile David Brock Group Backpedals on Soros Funding http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=\SpecialReports\archive\200503\SPE20050303a.html "Media Matters can no longer deny its Soros affiliation because "once you have the names (of donors), once you know that Peter Lewis is involved, you can't deny it," |
| Olbypocrisy | Posted – 11/22/2007 10:20:37 PM | show profile More gay slurs from crimedog.Why do you hate gay people so much crimedog? |
| newfrickinshow | Posted – 11/22/2007 10:42:53 PM | show profile Olby, Olby, Olby... You've posted that before, and I've looked at it before. Brock put it up there because he had no clue there was no link between Soros and Media Matters. The statement Brock went back on was "neither Media Matters nor its president and CEO David Brock has received any money from Soros or from any organization with which he is affiliated." They received money from an organization affiliated with Soros, but it wasn't Soros' money. It would be like if you donated money to Giulianni for his campaign, and someone else donated money to Giulianni for a "kitten killing initiative," the claiming you paid to have kittens killed. |
| newfrickinshow | Posted – 11/22/2007 10:45:47 PM | show profile The merry-go-round continues Can't counter, bring up someone else. OK then. -Don't know about the Achille Lauro to comment on it, I was like 4 years old when it happened. -I found some sparing info on this one. 1987, I'm guessing if the 'overthrow' attempt was secret then it was without the authoriztion of Congress. Making it unconstitutional and illegal, and then again maybe Leahy remembered what happened last time we were behind a secret coupe in the middle east. Eventually it created what became to be known as the Iranian Hostage Crisis. -The Iran-Contra info he disclosed was never classified. So it couldn't have been that big of a security breach. And BTW, this happened in 1987 and caused him to leave Senate Intelligence Committee. In 1987, Leahy resigned from his position as Vice Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee after an investigation into an alleged leak to a reporter regarding information. Which makes it sound like you've posted the same incident twice in an attempt to bolster your flimsy position. Are you sure you're not Bill O'Reilly himself? |
| dillmat | Posted – 11/22/2007 10:53:07 PM | show profile keith o needs new guests is msnbc trying to save money by having the same guests everynight ? everynight same guests, same format, everyone agrees with keith o, don't put anyone on that has a different view. just bring out lemmings, giggle when the war goes bad, and hope nothing goes well for the united states..republicans bad, bad bad...democrats good and decent..... |
| newfrickinshow | Posted – 11/22/2007 10:54:45 PM | show profile No... Democrats=pussies. He's said as much every time they fold and give in. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 11/23/2007 12:23:41 AM | show profile Didn't Keith just have Joseph Wilson? Very good interview. Reagen and Bush 11 both committed treason. |
| chucho | Posted – 11/23/2007 5:23:46 AM | show profile >> Can you list one example of BOR NOT being "honest"? Of course not. You will rant about a wrong stat or an opinion different from yours, but you will not be able to list a single "lie". << Last time FrankLobo made this challege I pointed out the Paris Business Review LIE, where BOR made up a source that doesn't exist and then falsely claimed that this imaginary source says that France lost billion in trade during the time BOR had called for a boycott (There'sa ctually two lies here: ONe, there is no Paris Business Review, and two: French exports to the US had actually gone UP a little bit over that period of time.) I'll add to that that BOR once said that sex with children is legal in Denmark, which is a lie so egregious that the Danish Embassy had to issue a correction to BOR's lie. SO, here's my new game: Each time Frank Lobo comes out with this broken-record thing: "just give me one example of BOR lying", I'm going to add to this list. There are plenty. |
