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Topic: O'Reilly vindicated as "Redacted" fails?
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| brother-trucker | Posted – 11/26/2007 8:15:17 PM | show profile Has Bill O'Reilly been vindicated after Brian De Palma's "Redacted" completely flops at the box office, making just over 25 *thousand* dollars in its first week? Keith Olbermann had Mark Cuban on his show to push the movie and mock O'Reilly, did that work out for either party? Discuss. |
| Olbypocrisy | Posted – 11/26/2007 8:48:47 PM | show profile Olbermann looks stupid once again.Bill O looks right again. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 11/26/2007 9:28:22 PM | show profile O'reilly is a scum sucking turd who abuses the airwaves and intimdates those who speak the truth. You clowns are no more the gophers hanging out his ass. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 11/26/2007 9:32:14 PM | show profile Soldiers across the world commit horrible crimes - remember your bed mate William Calley? He did a lovely job in Vietnam. Then again that's your make-up. Board monkeys tapping away nonsense.Tap Tap Tap.with no life. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 11/26/2007 10:40:16 PM | show profile It's not a metter of liking - it's a film about a real incident. By the way board monkey little Marie Osmond just beat O'Reilly by 20,000,000 viewers tonight and all she did was dance poorly. Says a lot about your leader grasshopper. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 11/26/2007 11:21:23 PM | show profile Lobo - my point was well made by your response. You sit on your fat lard ass and pontificate yet you're a million miles from the hardship, bloodshed and the facts. You don't know crap about anything. |
| newfrickinshow | Posted – 11/27/2007 12:07:13 AM | show profile I've heard a different take on 'Redacted.' I couldn't find a movie theater in my area (Minneapolis) that was showing it. That it isn't an anti-american movie, but more anti-war. I've read a review that says the movie attempts to document the ravages of war and it' affect on the human mind. As time goes on, with horrors all around you, your mind only naturally gets warped. And with extended tours combined with abbreviated leaves, it is bound to get only worse. How much did Bill's bitching have to do with it? Probably some. Movies like 'Dogma' had protesters (including director Kevin Smith at one in New Jersey), but made enough money for the theaters to consider playing it worth-while anyways. 'Redacted' wasn't an expected blockbuster and the theaters probably figured it wasn't worth the headache to play it. Of course, and potential terrorist recruitment caused by this incident has already been done. You honestly think Taliban recruiters weren't telling everyone they could find about this incident when it first happened? Do you honestly think they weren't screaming about it from every rooftop what 'those filty, imperialist, Jewish, pig, Americans did to one of their women? To not stand on the soapbox and yell about the brutal killing of a muslim family? It isn't always a matter of what you want to see or hear. Sometimes it's a mattor of what you NEED to see or hear. The Bush Administration is corrupt and at the very least incompetent at all levels. Global warming is happening it may be caused by pollution and we should try to stop it, Fox News is biased, there were no WMD's or connections to 9/11 in Iraq, evolution IS still just a theory, whereas intelligent design isn't a theory though because it's stuck back at hypothesis. PETA don't love animals they just hate people, many gun control laws simply make it easier for criminals, Al Gore may have won flat-out in 2000 if it wasn't for his wife and her Parents Music Resource Center chasing away the MTV crowd, and as it stands today the Muslim faith is the most violent and dangerous of the world's major religions. Just a few things I think we all have to come to grips with. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 11/27/2007 12:29:18 AM | show profile The movie wasn't made to compete with Enchanted. BOR used his bulbous lying face to intimidate whoever chose to show the movie or see it. That's about as anti-American as one can be. |
| dribbledrive1 | Posted – 11/27/2007 12:50:00 AM | show profile Time Magazine just wrote a piece about this. They made the point (a la Vietnam movies) that people often want distance before they are ready to view a warts-and-all drama about a war, so it may be too early for these types of films. --Its not just "Redacted"- EVERY one of these left-wing fantasies have failed miserably at the box office. Americans do not want to see movies that portray thier country and those who protect it as murderous thugs who rape and pillage. Well, maybe crimedog does.-- |
| dribbledrive1 | Posted – 11/27/2007 12:54:44 AM | show profile I doubt much if any. What hurt the film most is it's supposed to be boring, the entire cast is unknown, and its director (Brian de Palma) hasn't had a hit film in a decade. --How much did Bill's bitching have to do with it?-- |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 11/27/2007 1:18:27 AM | show profile Americans never want to hear the truth - that's why the elected Bush. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 11/27/2007 10:37:50 AM | show profile Americans were told they don't want to see this. I for one wouldn't care to see it either - already know the sordid details. If memory serves me I think DePama's inspiration for making this was based on a war movie I was quickly repulsed by. It was soldiers loose in a village raping at will. I think there's a rare few who can stomach this stuff. Anyone who's ever served in the military knows well that men will do horrific things in both combat and killing time. Some do it for sport. |
| newfrickinshow | Posted – 11/27/2007 11:22:28 AM | show profile I would have agreed with you a few years ago. I wouldn't have thought torture, rape, and murder were something no one would want to pay to see until 'Passion of the Christ' had it's huge hit at the box office. I honestly didn't see the appeal or the reason of going to a movie to watch Jesus get tortured for two hours. To be truthful I don't have much of a problem with people being mocked or attacked for stuff they've actually done or said. Whereas Fox News media critics aren't the best, I mean they found some way to misconstrue the penguins who were the main characters as being gay! The plot of the movie was basically the guy trying to get the girl for fucks sake! As far as Redacted goes, I'd have to watch the movie, and if it makes this appear of the norm or an extreme anomoly. There's no theaters around here playing it, but I probably wouldn't go see it anyways as I'm not a fan of movie theatres. I may put it on my Netflix queue one of these days, but with about 40 WWE movies, the complete Monty Python's Flying Circus, The Highlander series, Futurama, 15 or so documentaries, 50 animes, plus the movies I have to watch for film class it'll be a long time before I get around to it. I'm more interested in the backstory of Redacted and the record of the guys who committed the acts in the first place. |
| newfrickinshow | Posted – 11/27/2007 11:28:37 AM | show profile crap! The movie I was talking about up above was "Happy Feet." I need to turn up the heat I think. It's too cold for me to concentrate. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 11/27/2007 12:26:18 PM | show profile Lobo - spoken like a true idiot! O'Reilly told Americans not to see this and punish Mark Cuban. One moment you want to be loved the next banished. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 11/27/2007 3:41:03 PM | show profile Lobo - glad to see you're getting an education reading the New York Times. It was bound to happen sooner or later. No more People? |
| PluckyPane | Posted – 11/27/2007 3:59:44 PM | show profile Ummmm, did you ever consider that the low profits MIGHT be due to its one-theater release? I drove 70 miles to go see it in NYC and I'm glad that I did. However, I truly feel that war movies should come out at least 10-15 years after the conflict ends. Emotions are too hot for both sides while we're in the thick of it, not to mention that the outcomes still hangs in the distance. Just adding my two cents. Rip away. |
| newfrickinshow | Posted – 11/27/2007 4:12:30 PM | show profile Neither Bill O'Reilly I wouldn't say is a media powerhouse or a minor annoyance that no one listens to. His ratings are decent in terms of cable viewership, but nothing compared to things like Sponge Bob Square Pants, new episodes of Hannah Montana, Monday Night Football, or WWE Raw. Unfortunately for Bill, he has never really gotten over on broadcast TV and at this point probably won't ever get there. But he does pull in a consistantly sizeable audience on cable, regardless of his age group that generally makes it there. Meaning there were plenty of people to watch that 'Redacted' commercial during the Factor last week. That's my problem with Bill O'Reilly, despite being wrong or untruthful time after time, despite almost never making apologees or corrections, people still take his word as gospel. That is my biggest problem with Bill. Number one means you're the most popular, not best or most right. And from my experiences whether school, work, or day-to-day life, the most popular, can generally be pretty big assholes too. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 11/27/2007 5:21:26 PM | show profile Lobo - get your facts straight - the jerk went at the film - Brian DePalma with a vengence and yes it only opened in few threatres. The original poster made it sound as if the film was demoilshed at the box office when it played at only a handful of locations. I really don't know how much of an effect the pinhead had on the audience. My take is O'Reilly's audience aren't brightest lot so it I doubt if any film without the heading Smokey across it would draw. I also agree with the poster this is a film for 10- 15 years down the road. It's to now. |
| newfrickinshow | Posted – 11/27/2007 5:22:54 PM | show profile I'm aware and it is a bit contradictory. That can happen when you type or speak with emotion and passion. I prefer to try and be more deliberate and thoughtful and I'm just telling you what I think of Bill. Last time I was online and let my emotions get too much of me, I went to Tom Delay's website when he was still Speaker of the House and challenged him to a fight in a public venue. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 11/27/2007 6:45:30 PM | show profile I hope Delay put up his dukes.. |
| newfrickinshow | Posted – 11/28/2007 7:05:41 AM | show profile Are you kidding? I got pissed after I heard about the Northern Mariana Islands and DeLay's opposition to and attacks on basic human rights. A bill was put through to extend the workers right's act to America's protecterates and territories do the the slaver/forced prostitution/forced abortions going on there. It passed the senate unanimously, and went to the House where DeLay was majority pary whip. That put him in charge of scheduling votes, and refuse to schedule the vote for the bill. How bad were the conditions in the Northern Marianas Islands? The senate bill was started by TED STEVENS!!! I got a form letter back from DeLay's office thanking me for my input. I'm a fat ass who could barely hold my own, and I'd probably gotten whipped myself. But I just wanted to give him one solid in the fact to face. And I wasn't going to jump him from behind, I wanted it to be face-to-face in a public venue for everyone to see. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 11/28/2007 9:11:15 AM | show profile Delay was the bottom of the can residue. I think if you point to one person who destroyed and sank the Republican party - this is the guy. |
| newfrickinshow | Posted – 11/28/2007 10:55:12 AM | show profile I disagree to give Tommy Boy that much credit would be a little too much. It was a team effort. Brownie did a heck of a job, and brought W's approval rating among blacks down to something like literally 1 or 2 percent. The Bush economic policy, which apparently seems to be based off of the fiscal policies Michael Jackson or Mike Tyson, has chased away a lot of the fiscal conservatives. Rummy's screw-ups in Iraq, the conditions at Walter Reed, and Rove's attacks on the service records of McCain and Kerry chased away quite a bit of the military support the GOP used to be able to bank on. There was also Alberto Gonzales, 'nuff said there. Preaching to the base has of course pissed off the moderates. It's all come together in a wonderful clusterfuck of morons with heads-up-ass disease. |
