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| UGoGirl | Posted – 1/1/2008 11:42:16 AM | show profile Paul Krugman has a good analysis of the GOP and Democratic presidential candidates, specifically their economic policies. In a nutshell, in my words though, the GOP candidates are on a suicide mission. Although America has now come to deeply understand that Bush has not been working for the vast majority of Americans (as the wealthier have gotten much wealthier under his watch, and the rest of us at least a little poorer). Yet, the GOP presidential candidates seem unable to break away from Bush's disasterous economic policies, even as the economic house of cards built by Bush is falling down. Man oh man, you can just forget about the GOP this time around. |
| chucho | Posted – 1/1/2008 11:59:07 AM | show profile If you hate the GOP than you're a socialist that hates Jesus and you like it up the butt. |
| UGoGirl | Posted – 1/1/2008 1:44:29 PM | show profile Thank you for the concise summary chucho! Actually I think even all but the most far right wing evangelical Christians are turned off by the performance of the GOP... a lot of moderate Republicans and of course independents are jumping ship. |
| crimedog | Posted – 1/1/2008 3:51:11 PM | show profile Just keep Guliani in his crypt. |
| Stanley_Milgram | Posted – 1/1/2008 4:31:54 PM | show profile now, if we could only manage an election where the people's votes are actually counted... |
| astrahook | Posted – 1/1/2008 7:18:11 PM | show profile Im in agreement, but I don't think there is a chance we won't have a republican president win the next election. Time will prove one of us wrong, but I'd take that action. |
| chucho | Posted – 1/2/2008 12:22:19 PM | show profile Frankly, I'm not too happy with the entire process. Even Obama takes money from brokers (Lehman Bros) and banks (Citibank). This is legalized bribery. Until they do something about legalized bribery then the system is fundamentally flawed. Perhaps Americans deserve this kleptocracy? I got out of debt three years ago and don't have huge material demands. I'd survive a Depression on the fruits of my garden. Bring it. From now on I support the Depression ticket, which gives me no choice but to vote for the most bat-shit loco magic-believing, hot-man-love obsessing, Jesus-fixating, tax-breaks-for-the-rich giving, supply-side-myth advocating Republican I can find. Huckabee or Romney. If I didn't have a conscience, they woudl fit the bill. |
| UGoGirl | Posted – 1/2/2008 12:38:08 PM | show profile I don't know what it's going to take to get this country to get itself together, but it could take a depression so I'm game for it. On the other hand, that could be the ticket to a truly fascist state. |
| crimedog | Posted – 1/2/2008 2:18:07 PM | show profile You don't own the country therefore you have little say. No candidate will altar much - it's just where their priorities will fall. Bush gave Clinton's surplus away to the richest Americans. Romney would continue that trend. Edwards would divide the pot with more compassion but none can really turn things around. America does not own itself anymore. The US is quickly advancing into a third world country exactly what the large corporations want it to be - more in line with the rest of the suffering planet. |
| UGoGirl | Posted – 1/2/2008 10:45:57 PM | show profile crimedog, true there will be no quick and painless way to get ourselves out of the massive crater Bush and co have created for us. I get annoyed by the Democrats as well, as no one is willing to speak the honest truth that, among other things, we're going to have to increase taxes (especially for the wealthy) while we cut expenditures (cutting war costs would help greatly). Still, I think the Democrats have a far better track record on the economy than the GOP. Nice editorial in the New York Times on "The Economy and the New Year" "As 2008 begins, house prices are still skidding, bank losses are still mounting, oil is again flirting with $100 a barrel and consumers are buying less as prices rise. To many, the wheels appear to be coming off the economy. To others, including President Bush and his aides, the economy is fundamentally sound and resilient. Obviously, both camps cannot be right. Unfortunately, the preponderance of evidence is grim. "...Hoping for the best is facile if not paired with preparation for the worst. Perhaps more than anything, a lack of preparation makes it hard to believe Mr. Bush's assurances that all will be well. The administration has operated in a state of economic denial for years: conducting wars while cutting taxes, piling up debt, neglecting to regulate the financial sector even as it went on a lending binge, and ignoring the pain that was sure to come when consumers, bankers and investors sobered up. "Given that record, it is no surprise that Mr. Bush is now refusing to acknowledge the seriousness of the problems he has helped create. Americans don't need more denial. They need an unvarnished appraisal of the nation's economy - including the politics and ideology that has driven it to this point. That is the only real hope for starting to turn things around." |
| keltoi2 | Posted – 1/3/2008 12:39:42 PM | show profile I think you're underestimating the fear factor, ugo. The GOP has been using it shamelessly and to great effect ever since 9/11, and if Guiliani's cynical "Mr. 9/11" campaign is any indication, they plan to use it right back to the White House. I'd like to think that the majority of the American people are smarter than that, but I liked to think that for the past 6 years and too often saw otherwise. |
| astrahook | Posted – 1/4/2008 8:00:28 AM | show profile democratic strategists should be ashamed of themselves....a white jesus freak gop, and an african american dem. No chance in hell dem's will be living in the white house after this election. Maybe next time they'll think about finding an electable candidate. |
