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Topic: KEEF.....Counterbalance.....WTF??????????

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JIMBO99 Posted – 1/11/2008 9:35:27 AM | show profile
"I'd like it to be the accurate counterweight to Fox. My attitude is not to counterbalance them because they're conservatives; it's counterbalancing because some of their stuff is outlandishly in violation of every tenet of responsible broadcasting," he says.

Right Keef...that only leaves the libs:
NBC,CBS,ABC,CNN,MSNBC,CNBC and CNN Headline News.....hardly seems fair!
jazzreport Posted – 1/11/2008 9:50:33 AM | show profile
"I'd like it to be the accurate counterweight to Fox."
Take a look at this lie.

http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2008/01/caught_on_tape.php


Accurate??? I think not!!


http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2007/12/keith_olbermann_71.php
Iron Eagle Posted – 1/11/2008 11:08:08 AM | show profile
Shut up Olby!
newfrickinshow Posted – 1/11/2008 12:14:36 PM | show profile
Cynicism
I've gotten a bit cynical over the years when it comes to issues dealing with Fox News. Your "Olbermann Watch" website would have been much more convincing if dates were displayed. In other words to show that the clips of Fox mentioning the on air denial didn't happen until after Keith made his statement. In which case Olbermann is right, and Olbermannwatch would be a bunch of lying and intellectually dishonest asses.
jazzreport Posted – 1/11/2008 1:12:37 PM | show profile
http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2008/01/10/olbermann-vs-fnc-uh-oh/


Can't bring yourself to admit that Olbermann often lies about Fox ???Olbermann is the lying ass has always.
newfrickinshow Posted – 1/11/2008 1:34:32 PM | show profile
I already watched it, it was posted above.
I'd prefer actual dates of both statements if possible. Second, I'd need some substance than a couple-second clip. Did you read what I said above?
jazzreport Posted – 1/11/2008 1:39:38 PM | show profile
Yes FNC is evil!!!!!! Olberman speaks the truth!!!
soulman Posted – 1/11/2008 2:03:50 PM | show profile
Why so much anger towards Olbermann?
I don't see anything wrong with his program. He has opinions and expresses them. Free speech. Conservatives must feel threatened by him or they wouldn't freak out every time he say something they don't like.
newfrickinshow Posted – 1/11/2008 2:06:05 PM | show profile
yeah,
for the most part. Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity support torturing Jesus, that makes them evil. John Gibson said America needs another 9/11 in order to create national unity. Wanting hundreds or thousands killed to score a victory for the politicians you support is evil.
newfrickinshow Posted – 1/11/2008 5:15:24 PM | show profile
and soulman,
I think that the Olbermann hatred can be summed up best with an Albert Einstein quote:

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds."
johnnydollar Posted – 1/11/2008 5:54:00 PM | show profile
who's lying now?
> In other words to show that the clips of Fox mentioning the on air denial didn't happen until after Keith made his statement. In which case Olbermann is right, and Olbermannwatch would be a bunch of lying and intellectually dishonest asses.

Well since the video was posted within minutes of when Olbermann made his claim on Wednesday night, and since the clips from Fox all came from the day before--Tuesday--as can be seen from the scroll and time stamps, and since Dan Abrams played some of these same clips--and others--on his show that came right after Olbermann and all bore a time stamp a Tuesday, a day earlier... well, that would indicate that the lying and intellectually dishonest ass was Keith Olbermann.
newfrickinshow Posted – 1/11/2008 5:57:21 PM | show profile
Then we'll see
if Keith issues a correction. He usually does if he gets something wrong, which is why I put Olbermann as more reliable than Oreilly. Olbermann actually admits it when he gets things wrong.
johnnydollar Posted – 1/11/2008 6:06:53 PM | show profile
keith's korrections
> He usually does if he gets something wrong

Yeah. We recently put up a top ten list of Keith's lies from 2007 (actually with runners up closer to top 30). Guess how many of those he corrected? ZERO.

He's well aware that our video of this latest business went up on youtube just 30 minutes after his show ended, so there's no possible way the Fox clips could have come from after what he said--one was time stamped 2:05 pm and the other referred to "polls closing tonight at 8:00 pm" in the scroll--they were both from a whole day earlier, Tuesday. Of course, a simple check of Lexis or TVEyes corroborates that.

He'll do like he has done for all the other times he's smeared Fox or O'Reilly with falsehoods...stonewall. I'd have more respect if he would admit his mistakes and correct them, but he doesn't, which suggests they aren't mistakes at all but deliberate lies. (By the way, when O'Reilly's guest--not even O'Reilly, but just a guest on his show--made a mistake about lesbian gangs, Mr Bill not only corrected and apologized for it himself, he brought someone from GLAAD on to give a full discussion of the issue.)
newfrickinshow Posted – 1/11/2008 6:09:57 PM | show profile
"Yeah. We recently put up a top ten list of Keith's lies from 2007 (actually with runners up closer to top 30). Guess how many of those he corrected? ZERO."

Name one other than this he didn't correct.
johnnydollar Posted – 1/11/2008 6:29:17 PM | show profile
so many to choose from
> Name one other than this he didn't correct.

Only one? You aren't making it very difficult:

July 27: Keith Olbermann claims Bill O'Reilly ordered Jane Hall's microphone cut. Oops, the video shows he did no such thing. Never corrected.

http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2007/07/countdown_with_317.php

Special bonus second example:

May 23: Keith Olbermann lies about what Rosie O'Donnell said about terrorism by doctoring her quotes, then blames Fox News for reporting it correctly, while ignoring that Matthews, Fineman, and Craig Crawford on MSNBC itself said the same thing some people at Fox News did. Never corrected.

http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2007/05/keith_olbermann_45.php

Extra special bonus third example:

March 28: Olby gets a whole fistful of facts wrong in order two smear two bloggers. How many of his "mistakes" were corrected? Zero.

http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2007/03/olbermann_the_m.php
newfrickinshow Posted – 1/11/2008 8:13:56 PM | show profile
On the Rosie thing,
I love it when neo-cons get all ethno and egocentric. For one reason, I just love to use the words, and it so aptly describes them. I don't believe she was calling the Americans terrorists, I believe that she was trying to explain that's how many Middle Easterners see us and why. Just because you disagree, you refuse to acknowldege any other points of view. Many arabs considered us evil empire-seeking pigs. We may not have officially taken over other countries and claimed their land and resources for our own, but we still have military bases in foreign countries through out the world. Since I believe you to be ethnocentric, I'll put it to you the only way you'd understand. How would you feel if say, Saudi Arabia started building a military base just outside Savannah, GA? When we invaded Iraq for what turned to be incorrect and even possibly made up intelligence, it only served to cement that philosophy even further.

On top of that, Western World meddling has generally always made things worse in the middle east. Much strife could have been avoided had England done a more culturally and politically considerate job of drawing up the Middle Eastern Nations after the dissolution of the English Empire. A coup created by deception and arranged by the United States was responsible for the Shah taking power in Iran. Our fueling of radical Islam and arming the Muhajideen fighters in their war with the USSR grew into much of the chaos in the Middle East and the Pakistan-India area that we see today. From a standard middle eastern point of view, every time the west gets involved in their politics, it only makes things worse in the long run. We are dealing with the kind of people, some of whom still have a grudge over The Crusades. They don't forget, and they always resent. Then within the span of a couple years we invade two of their countries only makes them wonder "What's next?". And considering the thousands killed in the aftermath of the invasion, and the creation of a terrorist haven allowed by the lack of control after the Saddam was defeated, they were right to worry.

On top of that, we have the chest-beating, flag-waving, cross-bearing, bumper magnet using morons using the most hollow and superficial displays of patriotism in order to avoid admitting to their fear. I think it was Mitt Romney who was asked if waterboarding was torture, and he said many factors have to be considered; these include the who's doing the waterboarding. My interpretation of that is when a foreigner does it to an American it's torture, but when an American does it to a foreigner it's just fine. This is the source of what I believe most of the world hates most about America so much. We're good, you're bad no matter what. End of story. Fuck you.

Problem is that human institutions who believe themselves incapable of doing wrong, become capable of doing things much worse than many of those who are just blatantly evil. I'm not saying we're evil, but I'm not denying we're incapable of becoming evil. As the old old saying goes, "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."
jazzreport Posted – 1/11/2008 8:34:42 PM | show profile
Your right Frank
Don't forget America is evillll!!!!!!!
roshob2003 Posted – 1/11/2008 8:54:50 PM | show profile
Does any body realize that by having posts like this, people who dislike Olbermann are only perpetuating his presence.

I can take or leave Olbermann, but I find the near obsession with Olbermann & O'Reilly fascinating & scary.
newfrickinshow Posted – 1/12/2008 10:10:07 AM | show profile
When have I ever said that Keith Olbermann never makes mistakes? When? Search my posts and if you find one instance I will apologize to you. I've always maintained that from my point of view, Olbermann was simply more reliable than Lufah boy.

And I've also never said that America was evil...yet. I said that evil tendencies have been seeping into America as a result of fear and cowardice after 9/11. Justifying the torture of random people. Torture doesn't work, it's been proven generation after generation for thousands of years. It gets the people being tortured to tell them what they want to hear, whether they have the information or not. A skilled torturer could probably get everyone on this board to confess to the assassinations of Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter if that's what your torturer seems to want. It's visceral and it feels good, it feels like you're doing something, even if it doesn't work. It provides the illusion of greater security, and for faith-based idiots without any real morals or understanding of the New Testament, that works just fine for them.

It's all about serving our own self interests and to hell with the consequences for the rest of the world and the victims of our actions. Which is the very nature of evil in it's simplest form. America isn't evil, and I know you're going to go nuts with me saying this, but the GOP is becoming evil. The democrats aren't evil; this is mainly due to the fact that they're too big of pussies, but no, they're not evil right now.
thevertman Posted – 1/12/2008 4:43:16 PM | show profile
BillO has made an ass of himself for so long (what 7 years?), that he was basically TV's number one fountain of misinformation. Now that he has someone on opposite him that points out his and his Faux News errors on a daily basis, it's driving the Faux News sheep insane. You know you're successful when you have people like the idiots on this board who promote Keith more than MSNBC does.
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