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| noname1234 | Posted – 4/30/2008 2:18:56 PM | show profile To whom are you speaking to when you say "Vote Clinton!"? Are you encouraging the super-delegates? Because I cast my vote months in the dem primary months ago, as did the majority of primary voters. In other words, acting like there is still an active, nationwide contest between these two -- that every voter still has a vote yet to cast -- is misguided. This race ended for most voters a long time ago. |
| PluckyPane | Posted – 4/30/2008 2:48:08 PM | show profile i'm reading the black power blogs (the ones where all whites are stupid, racist pigs and nothing but pigs no matter how hard a white person can try to stamp out racism) today where they are blaming white privilege and everything else under the sun except for wright's fiery comments and obama's recent set of balls. no tomatos being hurled at obama's rep. it's time for indiana....read into that as much as you need. it seems like a dirty political trick. because people are still chatting about it, he had to say something. i was moved by his speech in philly, and if he wanted to stick by wright, then ok, cool with me. but now disowning him....seems too convenient and calculated. i certainly can't support him if he is the nominee or vp nominee. |
| chucho | Posted – 4/30/2008 3:17:32 PM | show profile March Fundraising figures Obama: $40.1 million Clinton: $20.1 million McCain: $12 million If this is any indication: some of you are going to have to get used to the idea of voting for Obama. And if you defect to McCain: you will deserve him. |
| noname1234 | Posted – 4/30/2008 3:50:58 PM | show profile No, NP, I'm not the only one here -- but I'm going to guess that there are a relatively small number of readers here living in N. Carolina, Indiana, Oregon, Guam & PR, etc. here. And there is no way voters in those states can generate enough elected delegates to give HRC the delegate lead. Can't happen. And this has nothing to do with what candidate you prefer. So you SHOULD be talking to supers, because they're the only ones who can theoretically throw this HRC's way. In other words -- despite all this endless debate and drama and silliness -- for all intents and purposes, the democratic voters HAVE spoken. It's mostly the media who keep up this breathless reporting as if there's some big referendum on obama vs. clinton coming up in which we all will be participating. |
| noname1234 | Posted – 4/30/2008 4:28:10 PM | show profile yes or no: Do you think that HRC can capture the delegate lead on the basis of remaining primaries/caucuses? And what primary season in the past can you recall where "every voter had his/her say"? They've almost always gone the way the GOP primary has gone this way: over and done WAY before every state voted. In other words, there's no particular precedence to acting like every state's vote is some sacred, cherished thing. |
| chucho | Posted – 4/30/2008 4:30:21 PM | show profile Obama outspent Clinton because he's getting more money. Huckabee and Obama are the only two candidates that haven;t had to borrow money because they received lots of contributions form the electorate. The truth is Obama seems to have more nationwide support, and both candidates have spent like drunken sailors -- they're both well over $100 million in total. The difference is Obama is spending money he is receiving while Clinton is borrowing money because she's not getting as much. The irony of all of this is I will probably vote for Hillary Clinton. So who's being objective here? It seems to me that despite my (highly skeptical) endorsement of CLinton (based solely on her health plan being "more universal", I think. . . ) the people are leaning toward Obama. I'm not even a Democrat, but hell will freeze over before I jump the shark and self-righteously and vindictively vote for McCain. I wish I'd hear more Democrats saying that, but I'm not surprised that they aren't. |
| noname1234 | Posted – 4/30/2008 4:50:32 PM | show profile NP: Yes, the people in states who haven't voted have every right to vote (in the GOP or Dem primary -- either way). What's wearing to me is your "Go Hillary!" fantasy that HRC can somehow charge ahead in the pledged delegate tally. It can't happen. Again, that has nothing to do with who you support. Hey, Ron Paul can't charge ahead of McCain either. That's not because I hate Ron Paul; it's called reality. |
