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| Latin1 | Posted – 5/2/2008 8:30:38 AM | show profile I have been wating for Cable News and regular TV News networks to report on something that shocked me during Rev. Jeremiah Wright's April 27th 2008 NAACP speech. I did see that both Fox News and CNN stopped regular programming to show Rev. Wright's speech and then they discussed it later on. I was suprised that no one in the Media caught what Obama's minister was saying. Rev. Wright's speech was like something out of the WHITE racists handbook. Wright went on about racial differences between whites and blacks in learning and music. Wright said that blacks and whites use different parts of their brain to learn. Implying that blacks and whites should be taught differently. That goes against the NAACP's early fight for intergration and against the notion by racist whites of "Seperate, but equal" education. Rev. Wright got a standing ovation from the NAACP for stating that blacks and whites have totally different thinking and learning patterns. Yet no one in the major news rooms caught this? That is certainly odd. A presidential candidate's personal minister of twenty years spouts Eugencis racist voo-doo science and not one media outlet batted an eye. If you don't believe me, go back and view Rev. Wright's April 27th 2008 speech at the Detriot NAACP conference and see the speech for yourselves. Come on Cable and network News...do your jobs. Imagine if Hillary's personal minister was spewing racist science on major news networks. She would've been done. |
| al medio | Posted – 5/2/2008 9:34:21 AM | show profile CNN and MSNBC ran with the AP version which had no mention of the racial differences. CBS and their affiliates did cover that part of his speech. |
| Moderate | Posted – 5/2/2008 11:17:57 AM | show profile Wright is given an ovation by the very organization that would have rightly crucified any white nut that had stooped to offer such a condescending racist diatribe. Any white news commentators, in turn, are utter racists to question Wright, much less to suggest he and what he says have a bearing on the election. |
| al medio | Posted – 5/2/2008 11:40:53 AM | show profile As it has been said repeatedly, replace black with white and African with European and you get David Duke. The difference is Duke wasn't systematically oppressed by the Government. It doesn't excuse his comments but does puts it in perspective. |
| chucho | Posted – 5/2/2008 12:14:30 PM | show profile Indeed, it's easy for whites to say it's equivocal racism (the KKK beignt he white version of black liberation theology) but then people who say that didn't have relatives that might have been subjected to medical experimentation (a la Tuskegee) or lived under forced segregation. There was a town in Florida enforcing Jim Crow as late as 1971 -- it's not like this is ancient history by a long shot. I don't agree with black liberation theology or Nation of Islam. I have my own views about the rhetoric used in these groups, and I do find it disgusting to hear some self-righteous idiot say white people invented AIDS to murder black Africans. But at the same time I do think it's idiotic over-simplification to say this is just the black version of the KKK, or to characterize 20 years of Obama's affiliation to this church and this pastor over the quotes you keep hearing all over the media. Which leads me to the main point: Once again we hear this manufactured outrage over the lack of coverage of Rev. Wright. In fact, I see a lot of coverage of it. I was just watching Conan O"Brian and he's doing skits about it, Larry King devoted a whole show to this. It was on MacNeil Lehrer. The networks have kept it alive. It's been on all three cable news networks. There are currently nearly 16,000 news links on Google News to articles that have the world "Wright" and "Obama". I think the issue here is that some people are watching a whole lot of Fox News punditry, which has clearly provided the most coverage to this issue. So they think that if BIll O'Reilly rants about it constantly then everyone else should be doing that, too. |
| Latin1 | Posted – 5/2/2008 7:47:48 PM | show profile Chucho, I am NOT white. Chucho you wrote: "Indeed, it's easy for WHITES to say it's equivocal racism". Chucho, that is a typical racist response. I guess you might not be too swift to realize that. First I am not white, but you assumed that any criticism of a ranting black racist would come from a 'white' person, is racist itself. To DEFEND any form of racist idiocy, no matter what color, this time from Obama's ministers, is ignorant. You cherry pick history, but then you don't know the history of whites in America. The majority of whites in America didn't own slaves. The majority of whites in America came in here around 1900 years after slavery. Many of them moved to the Midwest or stayed in the northeast. So why can't they say that someone is racist if they had no hand in the racism of the south? People on the left try to brush ALL white people with the same brush, something that Obama's minister does. That chucho, is racism. ...oh just for to let you know, I am not white. So you can't blanketly use racist remarks to try to validate your argument. A racist is racist, be they black, white or latino, and Rev. Wright IS A RACIST. Just go back and view the NAACP April 27th speech and view it for yourself. It is racist. Also doing 'skits' about Wright on Conan is not the same as Cable News catching, A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES PERSONAL MINISTER OF TWENTY YEARS SPOUTS RACIST EUGENICS ON THEIR OWN COVERAGE OR HIS SPEECH. |
| notprivileged | Posted – 5/3/2008 12:30:35 PM | show profile Yeah Latin...........#1 Well, THANK YOU LATIN! Chucho Keeps insisting that all whites are racists and quite frankly I was getting really tired of it! I repeat, I am fourteenth generation American, my family arrived on the Mayflower, fought in every major war this country has engaged in and that includes the Civil War! We were Yankees and not one was a carpet bagger! Remember the underground railroad? You despise white people Chucho, and you continuously lump us all together like we are some contagious disease. Why so much obvious contempt? You say you work outside of the country and your family has left to reside somewhere else. And you also said that if you could find a woman in Spain to marry you that you would bail! So desert your country when the chips are down. You scalawag! |
| notprivileged | Posted – 5/3/2008 1:24:09 PM | show profile Are you smarter than a fifth grader? Ask one about American History |
| notprivileged | Posted – 5/3/2008 1:30:18 PM | show profile Funny tv show! LOL "Are You Smarter than a Fifth Grader!" |
| chucho | Posted – 5/3/2008 2:41:19 PM | show profile >> Chucho, that is a typical racist response. I guess you might not be too swift to realize that. << #1.) I didn't say you were white. I said whites who say that Rev. Wright is the black version of the KKK are wrong. #2.) We're all race-ists. To have conversations about differences in the races is inherently racist. But some of us are just more honest about it and deal with it maturely and don't let our prejudices impede on other people (like being somebody who doesn't hire blacks or whatever). You yourself made some very racist comments about how Latinos would never vote for Obama because he's black (when you said he wouldn't win Texas). So get off your high horse, racist. |
| chucho | Posted – 5/3/2008 2:46:30 PM | show profile You guys are missing the point. The point is that black liberation theology has a history that emerged from being on the receiving end of a legacy of institutionalized, government-backed, police enforced racism. And that this went on well into the 60s and in many ways continued to this day -- it wasn't until the 90s that America addressed "red lining" entire neighborhoods (not issuing mortgages or loans to anyone in certain zip codes). There was a study a couple of years ago that showed that people that put "black names" on their resumes dare far less likely to land job interviews. I don't agree with black liberation theology and I don't like Rev/ Wright's comments. But to call it the black version of the KKK is nuts. |
| chucho | Posted – 5/3/2008 2:53:48 PM | show profile np: do you think the north was devoid of racism? Please. The Mason Dixon line runs through New Jersey (look it up). Also: are you implying that the chips are down in the USA. Judging from Fox News everything is going great except for all those child molesting liberals. PS: I've spent over 15 of my 37 yeas abroad, from kindergarten to today (and not as a military brat or an immigrant -- I am white and I was born in a red state and have relatives some "Yankees" would call "white trash") -- so it's not like being outside of the USA is something that happened when "the chips were down". My comment on Spain was related to quality of life and how so many Americans are living inside the myth that the USA is No. One in the world in everything, when in fact it ranks pretty low compared to other developed countries in a number of key quality of life issues. |
| anovelfate | Posted – 5/3/2008 3:36:51 PM | show profile Chucho, I am surprised by your comments once again. I understand your view point to a limited extent, but Rev. Wright is not defendable to say the least. Why would a "godly" man use the pulpit to subject Hillary Clinton, a woman, to prop up his man Obama? Think long and hard and fairly (setting aside your own personal views of Hillary for a moment) before you answer chucho. So, let's talk about bondage, slavery, subjugation, segregation, degradation, and self-deprication because women are still living it. |
| notprivileged | Posted – 5/3/2008 4:09:31 PM | show profile I'm not from New Jersey Chucho. |
| notprivileged | Posted – 5/3/2008 4:14:23 PM | show profile And your point is?? That was a stupid comment. |
| Latin1 | Posted – 5/3/2008 9:15:22 PM | show profile ...also regarding Wright Regarding Obama's minister Wright. No Christian minister would ever say "G_d damn" anything. In one of the Ten Commandments it states that you shall NEVER use the Lord's name in vain. So no one CLAIMING to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ would EVER use the term "G-d damn". Even I won't write the word God in that term. No true minister would EVER use that term and call himself a preacher, NEVER. So basically Wright is a big charlatan that Obama followed for twenty loooooooooong years....a man who in front of everyone used the Lord's name in vain. Wright is a fraud. Then I read that Wright is about to move into a big mansion in a RICH WHITE (to use Wright's word himself) neighborhood with very few blacks. Now THAT is hypocritical. Why didn't Wright build his big mansion in the South side of Chicago? That is because he is phony and a fool....plus a racist to boot. |
| Latin1 | Posted – 5/3/2008 10:04:16 PM | show profile not priveilaged wrote not priveilaged wrote: "Chucho Keeps insisting that all whites are racists..." That is new "McCarthyism". If you question anything people on the far left says you are labeled a 'racist'. I notice that crimedog/Ironeagle used that term loosely everytime he couldn't reply with an intelligent response, which sadly was quite often. Meanwhile Obama's personal minister of 20 years ACTUALLY said something so racist that would have destroyed a presidential campgain of any white person. If you are a fair minded person you would see that if all people wanted to be treated equally then that also includes critisim of a person of color who spouts racist things. But not to some, to some only white people can be racist, but in reality not all white people were involved in racisim of blacks. Without the majority of whites denouncing racisim against blacks in the early days, that racisim would still be around. Yet many on the far left BRUSH EVERY white person who questions people of color who are doing wrong as racists if they happen to do so. This reminds me of the Detroit mayor who has been caught doing corruption. Right a way he and others blamed investigations into his corruption as RACIST. Meaning that to cover misdeeds a person of low character when faced ANY critisim of a person of color doing something wrong will be responsed with the 'race card' by those who want to HIDE those deeds. Just like some one here will do. the term "racist" being thrown around is the new "the last refuge of scoundrels will wrap themselves in the flag", but this time instead of the 'flag' they wrap themselves in the cloack of the retort of the word 'racist'. It is like the boy who called wolf. |
| notprivileged | Posted – 5/4/2008 11:23:50 AM | show profile Chucho where do you hail from? No way are you an American! Latin I agree! Excellent job! Thank God someone actualy sees reality in these boards. Either you are a huge rat jumping ship, or you are a foreigner. ANTI-AMERICAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| matthew27604 | Posted – 5/6/2008 5:20:08 PM | show profile | email poster Wake up People I think it is about time the American population woke up and stopped blaming someone who has established an organization off of lude, off-the-wall, and shocking statements. The organization that Wright is apart of has done big thing in Chicago and surrounding areas to help all of races. Built homes, helped people WITH AIDS, and given jobs to the homeless. BUT his is an public speaker who gets paid to SHOCK and Aww the audiance 20 of what he said was true. The other 80 is speculation and his opinion. WHEN is having an opinion wrong. The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment was conducted by the U.S. Public Health Service, the United States government did this to blacks for 40 years until 1972. It was not an secret society of people it was OUR Government. Your tax dollars or possibly your parents' tax dollars could have went towards this experiment. The fact that AIDS and drugs could have been injected into the black community is not to far fetched when thought of from this perspective. But a lot of his antics about blacks vs whites in education is false. His Musical assessments are true. Down beat vs upbeat there is a difference in what is rhythemicly preferred not to say that there is not an exception (more whites buy hip hop than blacks). The bottom line is the WRIGHT guy mixes truth with lies and lies with opinion. He is a black version of Bill O'Reilly, or Hannidy and Colmes. These guys are public shock factor experts with little to no fact that support their arguments. They and others like them should not be taken seriously. WAKE UP PEOPLE...... |
| Latin1 | Posted – 5/6/2008 8:27:13 PM | show profile matthew27604 So matthew27604 what Rev. Wright said about blacks and whites learning differently true too? Since you believe that Wright was right about the music thing, what about his rants that blacks and whites are intellectually different? This is everything that goes against the NAACP principals. Well? Plus Obama's associations, like the one with terrorist Bill Ayers who blew up the police station harming officers, IS important and Cable TV SHOULD investigate this. Because it goes to judgement and character, plus many Americans want to know who IS running for the highest office of the United States. Most people on the far left want to sweep this under the table and not talk about it, but it IS very, very important. |
| Latin1 | Posted – 5/6/2008 8:32:54 PM | show profile matthew27604 Plus you lost all credibilty with the notion that the United States government injected AIDs into the black community is possible...no it isn't. That is really ignorant. That is the case why was the United States leading the efforts for early AIDs prevention, AIDs testing, AIDs drugs to fight OFF AIDs? The United States has SPENT MILLIONS to cure the HIV virsus. So to even imply that the United States is doing this is pure ignorance and for a minister to preach that the U.S. is doing this to hundreds of people to the height of that ignorance. |
| matthew27604 | Posted – 5/8/2008 5:26:22 PM | show profile | email poster Think before You BLOG I am NOT saying I believe that the US Government made AIDS to infect the black community. I think it is a waist of time to speculate on things you cannot prove. I AM saying this is not too far fetched when 30 years ago they where using blacks as experiments (They go the formula right). The feds spent $19 BILLION on AIDS last year (or 17 weeks at war for the Right-wing warmonger). With $10000-$18500 YEARLY cost per HIV infected person and 1,039,000 infected, the drug companies are making a killing lol (maybe they made the virus). But this is based on the belief that everyone in does not have YOUR best interest at heart. Right-wing fanatics usually believe the opposite thus causing the conflict in credibility others on the forum have mentioned. (To the uneducated Hiliary supporters sorry for the math). To answer others I think possibly the difference in culture may cause a difference in learning styles. There has not been enough research in this area to make a blanket assumption like the Wright guy. But I think with a balanced teaching style anyone can learn. To assume that Blacks and Whites are intellectually different......is kinda stupid isn't it. The whole thing is Rev. Wright built his career on shocking people. HE IS A PAID SPEAKER. |
| Eric Cartman | Posted – 5/8/2008 7:36:11 PM | show profile Does everyone forget 30+ years ago whites were used has experiments to?{LSD experiments come to mind}Also you can make the case hispanics and asians were used has experiments to. So why are blacks{and people who want to dismiss Rev J Wright's comments} only allowed to play the "you experiment on me card"? |
| anovelfate | Posted – 5/8/2008 10:19:34 PM | show profile matt; I can't look at Rev. Wright in the same manner as you. I can't rationalize his ministry nor Obama for staying in that church. If I do then I contribute to racism. Atrocities throughout human history and in the United States are abundant, and we could go back and forth swapping stories for "shock" factor. Divisive dialog needs to be addressed for what it is, and not swept under the rug. I don't want to quote Bill Clinton, but he said it best in a speech given on the same day as The Million Man March, October 16, 1995. Bill Clinton, "To our white citizens, I say, I know most of you ever day do your very best by your own lights -- to live a life free of discrimination. Nevertheless, too many destructive ideas are gaining currency in our midst. The taped voice of one policeman should fill you with outrage. (Applause.) And so I say, we must clean the house of white America of racism. Americans who are in the white majority should be proud to stand up and be heard denouncing the sort of racist rhetoric we heard on that tape -- so loudly and clearly denouncing it, that our black fellow citizens can hear us. White racism may be black people's burden, but it's white people's problem. (Applause.) We must clean our house. (Applause.) To our black citizens, I honor the presence of hundreds of thousands of men in Washington today, committed to atonement and to personal responsibility, and the commitment of millions of other men and women who are African Americans to this cause. I call upon you to build on this effort, to share equally in the promise of America. But to do that, your house, too, must be cleaned of racism. There are too many today -- (applause) -- there are too many today, white and black, on the left and the right, on the street corners and radio waves, who seek to sow division for their own purposes. To them I say, no more. We must be one. (Applause.)" |
| lolawrites | Posted – 5/9/2008 1:58:10 PM | show profile First, Latin1, you are wrong in saying that Rev. Wright is Obama's personal minister. Rev. Wright happens to be a reverend in one of the largest churches in Chicago. Their congregation is huge, he is not just working with Obama and Obama alone. Secondly, Rev. Wright's thoughts and opinions has very little to do with Senator Obama and his candidacy for President. You have set up your statements to seem so under the common bandwagon fallacy. Research and come up with an actual argument first. Everyone learns differently. While you interpreted Rev. Wright's assessment of learning as eugenics, I interpreted it as a poor word choice. It's not that we learn differently from one another, it's that there is a "white" standard of education here and because of it minority students are slightly more apt to fail when being taught in that "white" standard. However, when being taught with their own cultural standards, values, etc. in a positive light students do much better. Rev. Wright is not at fault for pointing this out. As both a minority student and teacher of minority students (majority latino and black) I would have to agree. I think my students do much better because I can use examples that relate to them and don't ostracize and down their cultures as the textbooks do. |
