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Topic: MEDIA JUMPS SHIP!
| Author | Message |
| reporterwriter | Posted – 5/5/2008 12:23:34 PM | show profile You guys are funny! |
| noname1234 | Posted – 5/5/2008 1:00:23 PM | show profile NP, rather than spending all your time in a comical and futile attempt to drum up fear of obama (oh no! He has a scary black former paster! Eee gads! He has a scary black wife!), why don't you spend some time explaining: 1. Why you think your preferrred candidate would make an excellent president 2. Why you think your preferred candidate has earned the right to be the nominee You've have flooded these boards with your anti-obama rants -- and you've hurled wild insults at anyone who disagrees on any level (they're all "anti-american," stupid, ignorant, etc.); the small number of people who read these boards are well aware of your opinions. So why don't you try a different, less hysterical, more positive tact to persuade those who have not been persuaded by you through this point? |
| reporterwriter | Posted – 5/5/2008 1:08:02 PM | show profile No, clueless ranters and ravers who go at it relentlessly every day are funny. |
| reporterwriter | Posted – 5/5/2008 1:10:28 PM | show profile >>So why don't you try a different, less hysterical, more positive tact to persuade those who have not been persuaded by you through this point?<< She's been here long enough that I'm convinced she's not capable of it. Give it up, and let her rant and be happy with herself. |
| noname1234 | Posted – 5/5/2008 1:42:50 PM | show profile I couldn't care less who you support or don't support, NP. It's your out-of-line tone and way-beyond-the-pale personal insults on these boards that really, really turn me off to you, not what political candidate you support. I don't take personal offense to your various and sundry name-calling towards me -- your MO is basically like that of a pouty kindergartener -- it just makes me not pay the slightest bit of attention to whatever case you're attempting to make. Something to think about, NP -- is spewing out that people who didn't vote for the same primary candidate as you did are "anti-american," "hate america" and should "leave the country" really the kind of thinking you want to align yourself with? is that really the kind of person you want to be? |
| reporterwriter | Posted – 5/5/2008 2:06:05 PM | show profile >>It's your out-of-line tone and way-beyond-the-pale personal insults on these boards that really, really turn me off to you, not what political candidate you support. I don't take personal offense to your various and sundry name-calling towards me -- your MO is basically like that of a pouty kindergartener -- it just makes me not pay the slightest bit of attention to whatever case you're attempting to make. Something to think about, NP -- is spewing out that people who didn't vote for the same primary candidate as you did are "anti-american," "hate america" and should "leave the country" really the kind of thinking you want to align yourself with? is that really the kind of person you want to be?<< I never got into any of your Hillary threads, NP, and I've gone out of my way not to insult you (thought about it, then thought twice!), but you certainly fired the personal insults at me with impunity. Like noname, I also don't take personal offense and I *do* share the same approach toward your posts, for exactly the same reasons. It would have been truly lovely to have enlightened discussions from differing perspectives, but that seemed not to be possible, given that you devolve so quickly into name-calling and rhetoric as soon as someone expresses a different opinion or asks you for credible information behind yours. Well, life goes on. |
| reporterwriter | Posted – 5/5/2008 2:08:03 PM | show profile I hope some of your buddies on the recipe-sharing, dog-advice, commiseration part of the forum come back to see you in action here, NP. I think they'd be surprised that you do everything you complained about. |
| noname1234 | Posted – 5/5/2008 4:01:29 PM | show profile My dear, you're taking two separate posts out of context. The first post was an observation that you are investing a lot of time and energy flooding this site with posts bashing a candidate you apparently don't like, but I can't see to what end, because I don't think you are persuading anyone. If persuasion is your goal, a different, less hostile tactic may be in order. The second post was in response to your comment that you've been ostrasized, vilified, etc. on these boards because of your political views. I was saying that the reason I object to your posts isn't because you didn't vote for the same person I did -- in other words, that's not what I care about. It's that your tone are rude and insulting toward me and other posters who disagree with you. |
| writermum | Posted – 5/5/2008 8:23:59 PM | show profile I'm wondering if those of you who are so unnerved by the fact that Obama's not perfect think the Clintons are scandal-free just because the MSM has not picked up on one unsavory Clinton relationship or wrongdoing during this whole campaign? Could it be possible? Are they suddenly so honorable? |
| noname1234 | Posted – 5/5/2008 9:46:10 PM | show profile So Rev. Wright and anything he's said/done is an essential part of Obama's campaign....Michelle Obama and anything she's said/done is a central part of Obama's campaign... but Bill Clinton is irrelevant to Hillary's campaign because "only one Clinton is running"? huh? |
| noname1234 | Posted – 5/5/2008 10:11:47 PM | show profile I don't hear really hear a lot of crying foul -- I think that some folks are concerned that the issues being address around Obama -- which basically come down to Rev. Wright -- aren't valid ones. If we can believe that Hillary can have a long, intense, personal, meaningful relationship with Bill, and still understand that they are two separate people with separate ideas and separate strategies and that Hillary deserves to be judged on HER words and HER proposals and HER professional background, then we should be able to see that about other candidates as well. |
| writermum | Posted – 5/5/2008 10:35:23 PM | show profile And as for identifying with working-class life, Clinton became well-schooled in learning how to identify with it during numerous campaigns in Arkansas as well as her husband's national campaigns. That Michelle Obama -- whose dad was a shiftworker (with MS no less) who supported an entire family from a one-bedroom apartment -- and the single-parent raised Barack have been painted as the elitists by Clinton and the right in this campaign is laughable. It reeks of the veteran Kerry's patriotism being called into question by the draft dodging oil profiteering bazillionaires. i think it was Obama, not Clinton, who left the Ivy League school to do community organizing and then begin public service rather than join a corporate law firm. Am I mistaken? I think he was also the one raised by a single parent and not a product of well-to-do Chicago suburbs. The Clintons wrote the book on explaining why many working class vote against their economic interests, and they are certainly more savvy than Obama when talking about it. But more in touch with the working class? Hardly. Obama may however lose this one by being too loyal and inexperienced on the national scene to throw associates under the bus soon enough (Wright) and too honest to take each and every pander that presents itself. (ie, the gas tax, which Clinton has grasped onto although it saves consumers next to nothing and she's already spent the oil profits she says she'll pay for it with on something else.) And he probably shouldn't talk so much as though everyone listening is a critical thinker and not an opportunist reporter looking for a sound byte. Everyone is certainly not. |
