Topic: TH: Michelle Obama rants against WHITEY?

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Guyarthurthomas Posted – 5/16/2008 5:42:31 PM | show profile
Per Townhall:

http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/e7ba27ab-7e83-4ecb-bef1-7e55cde4f8c3
Quote from the Matt Lewis article:

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Rumor has it that there is video of Michelle Obama "railing against 'whitey' at Jeremiah Wright's church."

If this is true, it could be lethal. It's one thing to distance yourself from your pastor, but quite another thing to distance yourself from your spouse.

Might Rev. Wright be the one leaking the video?

Be warned: Again -- this might be just be a rumor. Or it might be big -- if it's true. Stay tuned ...

Update: I talked to Larry Johnson, the blogger who has this story. I don't personally know Johnson, but his bio seems pretty credible. He was once considered a "darling of the Left," but has become somewhat of a "bad guy" since turning against Obama.

He speculates the goal is to hold onto the video till August.

At a minimum this rumor is out there.
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If this is true this will be devastating. We'll see.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/15/will-barack-throw-mama-from-the-train/
Latin1 Posted – 5/16/2008 6:50:31 PM | show profile
It doesn't surpise me.
Somehow with Michelle Obama's 'finally proud to be an American' speech and her thesis, it does not surprise me.

This is the woman who wants to be in the White House and the first lady?



chucho Posted – 5/20/2008 11:56:30 AM | show profile
Oooo, such angst. I love it! I hope Obama wins just to watch you people squirm and wiggle and shift uncomfortably for the next four years.

Instead of whining incessantly, why not just say "I'm voting for McCain, and you shoudl to" and be done with it? You scouring for rumors and YouTube videos isn't changing anyone's minds here.
Stanley_Milgram Posted – 5/20/2008 12:45:20 PM | show profile
I too feel like voting for Obama, just too piss these people off.

Absentee ballot, please!
vburn1979 Posted – 5/23/2008 6:18:19 PM | show profile
Michelle Obama rants against WHITEY?
I think that Michelle Obama does feel some underlying anger against White America. This attitude is fomented by the likes of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. This country has come a long way in 40 years. Black Americans hold high elected offices and run corporations. The wealthiest most influential woman in America is black. All things being equal a black candidate for a job will be more likely to get the job to encourage workplace diversity. The problem is that professional race hustlers such as the Messrs. Sharpton and Jackson keep things stirred up; racial unrest is their bread and butter. America is still the best Country in the world. What many black Americans need to understand is that you do not always succeed on the first try. Many of the most successful people in the world have failed numerous times before they became an "Overnight Success". Sharpton and Jackson convince black youth that the odds are against them so they do not even try. Two of my fellow residents during my Medical Residency were from Viet Nam. They remembered coming to this country on a boat. They and their family worked very hard and within one generation they were going to Medical School. If a black child wants to succeed in this country try reading books and commentaries by black commentators and politicians such as Juan Williams, J. C. Watts and Larry Elder. They will give you a more measured view of this country than those mentioned above. You can succeed in this country regardless of race, creed or color. Just keep trying until you succeed!
PluckyPane Posted – 5/23/2008 7:58:09 PM | show profile
good post, vburn. i wish more people, black and white, would shut their ears to sharpton and jackson. no audience equals death to those angry, ignorant talking heads.
chucho Posted – 5/24/2008 12:43:36 PM | show profile
Let me offr an alternative header for a conversation thread:

Hillary Clinton called for ASSASSINATION of Barak Obama.

Now, of course, I know she didn't mean to imply that "anything could happen, including Obama's assassination" -- but if I were to apply the same thinking as some of the people on this board think about Obama, the I might as well contextualize Hillary Clinton as somebody who dropped the assassination hint.

Again: I know what she meant (it was in really bad taste, but she meant that "anything can happen between now and July") -- I am simply trying to provide an analogy for how some of the people on this board view Obama and try to force an interpretation that was not intended.

If he says his white grandmother is a typical white, we know what he means: The people who like Obama will caste the comment in his favor and the people that don't like him will view it as a disparaging remark.

I know what he meant by "typical white person" in this context. -- It reminds me of that Job Stewart thing on white-black dialogue where he says white people are annoyed when black people stop next to them at a light blaring loud music from their car. When asked "why don't you just ask them to turn it down?" He says: "Because we're afraid." Typical white guy. (For his part, the black guy says he's annoyed at how white people ruined jazz. Typical black guy.)

Anyone who isn't willing to recognize the intent of Obama's remarks regarding race (or who isn't willing to have an open and honest dialogue about race relations in America) are just being partisan and intellectually dishonest in their views.
catlondon Posted – 5/24/2008 4:15:29 PM | show profile
I listened to almost all of Clinton's talk to the Argus. She wasn't implying that anything can happen between now and July. She was making the point that people, including her husband and Bobby Kennedy, were still campaigning for the nomination in June (which is traditionally when the CA primary is held). If you listen to the conversation, including what was said immediately before the Kennedy remark, she was detailing how historically many races have not been decided by now and Kennedy's was one of them. Was it the best way to phrase it? Certainly not. But her intentions are nowhere near what the Angry Left wants them to be. Direct from the Argus website:

Here is a transcript of the relevant portion of the interview:

This is the most important job in the world. It?s the toughest job in the world. You should be willing to campaign for every vote. You should be willing to debate anytime, anywhere. I think it?s an interesting juxtaposition where we find ourselves and you know, I have been willing to do all of that during the entire process and people have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa and I find it¬¬-

EB: Why? Why?

I don?t know I don?t know I find it curious because it is unprecedented in history. I don?t understand it and between my opponent and his camp and some in the media, there has been this urgency to end this and you know historically that makes no sense, so I find it a bit of a mystery.

EB: You don?t buy the party unity argument?

I don?t, because again, I?ve been around long enough. You know my husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere around the middle of June

EB: June

We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. Um you know I just I don?t understand it. There?s lots of speculation about why it is.
catlondon Posted – 5/24/2008 4:25:42 PM | show profile
"Angry Left" are now starting to represent Obama supporters in conservative talk--just so you know where I got that term from.
Nikongirl Posted – 5/24/2008 4:36:31 PM | show profile
As someone who is fairly left of center, I cannot understand how hard it is for people to understand what she said. It is pretty clear that she was only comparing those races running into June as she continues her campaign. Not rocket science. She stated a simple fact.

Of course the RFK comparison is unfortunate, but these candidates are exhausted and make a few blunders.

Human. She is, he is. No one is perfect, why let us just take a quick glance at GWB and eight years of folly and foolery.

Queen Kong Posted – 5/24/2008 11:25:55 PM | show profile
>> chucho Posted ? 5/24/2008 12:43:36 PM

Let me offr an alternative header for a conversation thread:

Hillary Clinton called for ASSASSINATION of Barak Obama.<<

God almighty! Talk about going from A to Z with nothing else in between.

If you (and all those who've fallen for this spin) have any interest in finding out things for yourself -- not from gossip and interpretations made by others -- then you would go to the source:

http://www.argusleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880524001

Where you will find the entire transcript of the meeting with the editorial board and read:

CLINTON: I don't know. I don't know. I find it curious because it is unprecedented in history. I don't understand it. Between my opponent and his camp and some in the media there has been this urgency to end this. Historically, that makes no sense, so I find it a bit of a mystery.

EB: You don't buy the party unity argument?

CLINTON: I don't because, again, I've been around long enough. You know my husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. You know, I just don't understand it and there's lot of speculation about why it is, but . . .

EB: What's your speculation?

CLINTON: You know, I don't know, I find it curious and I don't want to attribute motives or strategies to people because I don't really know, but it's a historical curiosity to me.

EB: Does it have anything to do with gender?

CLINTON: I don't know that either.
Nikongirl Posted – 5/24/2008 11:48:44 PM | show profile
>>Hillary Clinton called for ASSASSINATION of Barak Obama<<

That is some kind of twisted thinking to come up with this nonesense from what she actually said. Who comes up with this stuff? The F network?

chucho Posted – 5/25/2008 9:50:39 AM | show profile
Um, I'm not actually saying that.

My point is that is if you applied the logic of interpretation of Obama's race comments to Hillary's recent interview, then you would make that kind of weird conclusion -- which is what a lot of people are doing, by the way.

My view: people can be stupid and hog-headed, and candidates that don't understand how their comments will be spun are not wise. For once I'd like to see a candidate that knows when to shut up.
Nikongirl Posted – 5/25/2008 11:09:51 AM | show profile
Chucho, I know you weren't saying that but it is being said. It is outrageous that a simple sentence can be twisted to suit other agendas.

I think we would all love candidates who know when to stop talking or take the less is more platform. I can't stand hearing any of them talk anymore. Even if they are not sick of hearing their own voices, I certainly am.
Guyarthurthomas Posted – 5/25/2008 11:19:29 AM | show profile
AND GUESS who is taking CLINTON'S statement OUT of context and manipulating it their advantage? Who? Oh yes, DEMOCRATS themselves, the ones that want THE OBAMANATION! Hahahahahaha, you dummies! But hey, keep eating your own, it makes it easier for the rest of us.
chucho Posted – 5/25/2008 3:27:13 PM | show profile
>> But hey, keep eating your own, it makes it easier for the rest of us. <<

By "the rest of us" you mean all those people giving money to the McCain bus (he's in third place, by a considerable margin) and the minority that will vote for McCain in November? :)
vburn1979 Posted – 5/27/2008 8:35:36 PM | show profile
Hillary Clinton calls for ASSASSINATION of Barak Obama
I am NOT a fan of the Clintons and NEVER thought I would be defending them. If you listen to the quote she states that she is staying the race and brings forth some examples to support her decision; her husband and RFK were still campaigning during the month of June. She adds to qualifier that RFK was campaigning when he was shot, not to encourage the assassination of Obama but rather to recall that Kennedy was still running and would have CONTINUED had he NOT been assassinated. I think everyone needs to calm down and quit making race such an issue in this country. This may sound naive but there are so many issues of importance at this time in history. Listen to the issues people are so ready to be offended and misconstrue the remarks of others. I accept Ms. Clinton's explanation. Let's move on to more important matters!
sue ellen mischke Posted – 5/27/2008 9:20:34 PM | show profile
Ummmm....Mrs. Obama married a white guy...
Guyarthurthomas Posted – 6/1/2008 6:14:05 PM | show profile
The alleged video may come out as early as tomorrow, Monday, June, 2, 2008, that allegedly shows Michelle Obama involved in RACIST HATE SPEECH on the level of KKK but toward WHITES. We'll see.
Guyarthurthomas Posted – 6/4/2008 7:01:51 PM | show profile
We (the general public) have yet to see this alleged tape with the alleged RACIST HATE SPEECH BY MICHELLE OBAMA, referring to Caucasians as WHITEY. But, the original article did say the person who owns the tape is holding it until AUGUST. It's gonna be a long, hot summer.
Guyarthurthomas Posted – 6/5/2008 7:40:36 PM | show profile
Townhall has another writer following this story and this weekend is suppose to have a revealing article. Again, we'll see if the tape exists showing Michelle Obama using RACIST HATE SPEECH with the term BIGOTED TERM WHITEY.
Shasta Posted – 6/5/2008 8:04:49 PM | show profile

Mark Halperin (Time magazine) acknowledged on yesterday's Charlie Rose that it has been discussed amongst the press for weeks; however, there appears to be nothing out there. He says the Obama campaign says they have no idea what it could be.

Rose himself felt that no one holds bombshells like that. If there were something out there Hillary would've used it and was hoping there was something like that out there.

Its existence was probably just wishful thinking on the Clinton's part.

Shasta Posted – 6/5/2008 8:17:53 PM | show profile
One more thing.

In this texting age, I refer to myself as YT.

I am disappointed to see MB resemble some blog by angry social misfits who spend their entire day online ranting. Isn't this site supposedly composed of journalistic types?

It's certainly reasonable to bring the video thing up, people are talking about it, but ridiculous raves aren't going to sway anyone's opinion - only make you look like the MinuteMen. Or do they only hate Hispanics? I forget who hates whom.



Guyarthurthomas Posted – 6/5/2008 8:48:32 PM | show profile
Message boards do tend to attract the powerless and disgruntled element. It provides a place for a person to imagine he or she has power by engaging in passive or direct antagonism toward other posters and for the unhappy, miserable and disgruntled it gives the perception that a person can come and set things straight with their view of the world or their position on certain topics and everyone has to read what that person has to say (as opposed to most of their friends and family probably long ago quit listening).

But aside from message board misfits, the board does have plenty of JOURNALISTIC types with many valid topics. As for the CURRENT EVENTS forum, think of it as the WATER COOLER with any current event eligible.

BTW AvantGuild membership has more privileges and might steer you to more compatible dialogs.
Guyarthurthomas Posted – 6/6/2008 12:19:30 PM | show profile
BTW I see you found a similar thread in the TV News forum.
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