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| writesonwater | Posted – 5/19/2008 2:46:54 PM | show profile | email poster Okay -- it takes more than $1,500 to move. Still, a good investment even if it's begged or borrowed. If that's GW's only risk, then do it. I have made similar gambles (even with kids, believe it or not) that have paid off in life-changing ways. Besides, unlike almost everyone else on this board, GW has an ace in the hole -- a family and address in NYC. How easy does that make it to eventually get back to the Big Apple once GW has some experience etc?? That's a lot more than many on here have to build on. The glass is half full, so drink it up and go for it. It certainly beats losing your cool, going to still more recruitment agencies and headhunters (I don't even know what that's about -- I've never had success with one of those), stewing about the lack of jobs, trying to "brand" yourself, crying and feeling like a freaking idiot for majoring in journalism. When my husband went back to school for teaching, there were 100 applicants per job when he got out (where we lived.) Lots of applying for a year. Instead of crying and losing it, on a shoestring, we hauled our little family southward across the country (from above the 49th parallel to the Texas-Mexico border) so he could do what he was trained to do. It altered our lives forever, but we don't regret the move. He's been in the field for two decades, and we've been in Texas that long, having decided not to go with our original plan to do this "just for a couple years." Do what you need to do. |
| jobhunter08 | Posted – 5/19/2008 4:14:19 PM | show profile "Why do so many young people refuse to move for a job? And then lament that there are no jobs?" Just like to comment on this. As it's already been stated, it costs a lot more than $1500 to move. In fact, $1500 is about the equivalent of a 1 day rental of a SMALL U-Haul van. You older people who haven't relocated in a while really have no idea about the costs of these things nowadays. So, let's say someone rents a U-Haul for 3 days, then moves into a rented apartment where they have to make a deposit and first month's rent payment. Easily close to 8-10K, ON TOP OF current gas costs for that 3 day drive, and oh yeah, we're also in several grand in debt already for getting that great education that was supposed to land us a job. So please, don't suggest moving is the magical answer, unless you're willing to finance it. I am accepting donations, btw. |
| mkelly | Posted – 5/19/2008 4:14:52 PM | show profile I still challenge that it takes a lot more than $1500 to move to a small city. By my math, and spot checks of housing ads on Craigs List in places I'd never want to live... Rent: $450 Utilities: $100 for a month Cable: Skip it until next month Phone: $60 Groceries: $100 for two weeks Gas: $100 for two weeks I'll throw in another month's rent, and you're at $1260. That'll carry you through the first two weeks, and by then you're getting a paycheck. Moving from DC to Long Island doesn't count as the middle of nowhere; LI is still pretty expensive. Flyover country is where you'll find the entry-level jobs. |
| snappiness | Posted – 5/19/2008 4:34:16 PM | show profile I went into debt for college, so why not go into some debt for the career change? $8000 - $10,000 for a move isn't that much to pay off once someone gets a job, and worth it to make a positive career change. Just an option. If I were doing this all over again I would look at smallish towns where I already had friends or relatives who could help lay some groundwork ahead of time (apt search, networking etc). |
| Keith | Posted – 5/19/2008 4:53:00 PM | show profile Village Gal, I LIVE IN THE F***KING PROJECTS! How am I coming of privledged? Yes I have worked for the past two years, but not steady work, since all my skills are in journalism I can't find long term temp assignments. And for the record, temp agencies treat you like crap, and the places they send you treat you like your nothing! I WANT TO MOVE, but who says if I move away, that I will get a job in order to pay rent for another month! If not, I'm screwed! It's too risky to move when you don't have that much in the bank. Now there are journalism jobs out there, not many, but some in new york. Should I call managing editors and asked for informational interviews, or will that just be a waste of time? And if there are no jobs in journalism, what about PR, Communications, Online Media, etc. Yes I want to move, but without sufficient funds, I think it would be foolish to spend the money that I do have to move. Even though I live with my parents I STILL HAVE BILLS! I pay rent (in NYCHA, if you have ANY kind of income, you must pay some rent, even if you temp!). I buy my own food, clothes (from the $10 store) and so forth. A person has to really think about just jumping up and moving in a recession. |
| PluckyPane | Posted – 5/19/2008 5:05:51 PM | show profile oh boy. the generation war begins. reality check, youngins from this old folk. since ghost is still living at home, other than a mattress, some clothes, and few personal things, what is left to pack? what's going in the uhaul? put the mattress on top of the beater and be done with it. geez, let's not make this a full-scale production. it's not like a whole family is moving. do you kids out of college think you invented broke? i feel for you in the job market, but i know of NO gen y'er who isn't a cocky, self-assured know-it-all who paves his own way to his dreams, despite student loans (yeah, i got them too.....still) and other obstacles. ghost, it's my unsolicited advice that you do some soul searching and broaden your horizons. there are ways to get around a shaky job market if you are willing to consider things other than your direct path to journalism. no experience is wasted, my dear. you're just stuck in some weird warp that you have to take a job in journalism or it's not worth the degree. i don't mean to sound harsh. i just think after 2 years its obvious you need a different strategy. |
| writesonwater | Posted – 5/19/2008 5:35:59 PM | show profile | email poster Enough with the agism. If you're unencumbered by family, give it a go. THe Projects doesn't sound nearly as good as small-town America. What do you have to lose except the negativity that can seep out in every reason why it won't work? Who said you need a uhaul? Take a few suitcases. If you don't have a car, buy one when you get there, along with $200 of used furniture if you can't find a furnished place. Go west, young writer. Or south. Start at this link and go to the statewide links for jobs in many states. And know that it's the tip of the iceberg -- for those that are advertised, there are more that aren't. http://www.texaspress.com/StatePressLinks.html Most press associations have job banks for their members, and there are a lot more jobs on them, as few smaller papers advertise on journalismjobs.com or other big sites. Look, don't take this like we're telling you what to do. If you do that, then you'd blame us if you got there and found it was more work than you wanted to do. But I will tell you the hours and hours I put into community journalism have been very rewarding. And I have written for major dailies, trade pubs, even a national magazine or two. And I really do wish you good luck -- mostly because I've been there. ------ http://writingporch.blogspot.com/ http://jlouiselarson.blogspot.com/ http://familyrootsandwings.blogspot.com/ |
| globetrotter78 | Posted – 5/19/2008 5:38:27 PM | show profile Patience I graduated during the recession of 2002 and it took me several years - 5 exactly to get a job in the communications realm. During that time I worked at a bank and just did what I had to do to earn a regular paycheck. The lesson I learned from my 20s was that you shouldn't confuse *hard* choices with not having a choice at all. So you may have to work at a restaurant or bank or retail store for a while. It's just part of the game. I worked in a bank and later when I started freelancing one of my first clients was a financial trade. That "horrible" experience led me to some nice freelance paychecks down the line. Bottom line: do what you have to do to earn a living. That doesn't mean that you give up on your dreams, but just loosen your grip a little bit. Keep sending out resumes, going on informational interviews, saving money, networking, freelancing and all of those positive things. Keep your skills sharp. A few people on here have suggested that you learn computer software. This will help you a lot. Use this time to build the skills that you'll need later. Try not to focus too hard on time lines. Things happen when they happen. This is good advice for me too, because we all get impatient. Best of luck! |
| writesonwater | Posted – 5/19/2008 5:47:20 PM | show profile | email poster A one-day UHAUL rental is not $1,500. But that's probably not the best way to go. How many of us have relocated with a few things, buying used furniture cheap when we got there? I have. My kids have. And one person CAN pick up a few bags and go, unless they're determined to take their rock collection. As a parent, I have personally loaded up my car and helped two adult children move across country. I know the path from Dallas, Texas to Washington, D.C. way too well. And in lieu of letting my unemployed son sit on the couch, I have long-term loaned him an older, paid-off family vehicle, and paid his car insurance. That was a big thing for me -- others may be able to do more, or less. But every little bit helps, and most parents want to see their fledglings fly. It sounds to me like maybe Ghost is in panic mode, and needs to hear others give some ideas about what can be done. Of course, I may be naive about that. |
| writesonwater | Posted – 5/19/2008 5:50:15 PM | show profile Globe, great advice. Lots of us have "done time" in jobs we had no long-term interest in. I've got a rather long list, comprised of things I did to contribute as we moved to accommodate family needs or my husband's work. I love what you said about the difference between hard choices and no choices. |
| snappiness | Posted – 5/19/2008 6:00:58 PM | show profile I will say one thing, when I saw Eudora Welty speak in college she said what all successful writers say -- you take up writing up because you have to. You can't imagine doing anything else. Writing comes out of you whether you're getting paid or not, whether you have "the right job" or not. A journalist really has no other choice. Sure, it's very frustrating, but you need to realize that you're up against people who will never, ever quit and are taking huge risks and shit jobs and going heavily into debt to make it happen because they can't imagine doing anything else. If you're not willing to do that, if you're not absolutely consumed by passion for journalism, then it might make sense for you to look at PR and other types of writing. Frankly, you'll make a lot more money! |
| writesonwater | Posted – 5/19/2008 7:25:44 PM | show profile | email poster I know this is OT, but how cool that you saw Eudora Welty speak! Wow. Rosa Parks signed one of her books for me -- that's my personal brush with fame. |
| Keith | Posted – 5/19/2008 7:27:59 PM | show profile Explain in detail what I should do to get a job to survive Yes I'm in "panic-mode". To globetrotter78, how does one get a job in a bank/retail store with a degree and experience in only journalism/communications? Do I just walk in the bank or store and ask if any positions are available? I don't know how to really look for a job. All I have been doing is sending out resumes, cover letters with no responses! That was the point of this post and it seemed to go off topic a little. I need advice on the ways to seek out employement (in whatever field to survive, but I was focusing on journalism sinced I majored in it). |
| jseconds77 | Posted – 5/19/2008 8:37:59 PM | show profile ok. firsthand experience. I picked up and went where the job was...what happened? well, found out editor(editor at paper for one year) was pyscho and 8-10 people left/were fired in only one year's time. I was told I wasn't wanted after a mere 5 days(no joke), I learned nothing, got stressed out, lost $ on apartment deposit for moving early, applied to every job I could; best bet was a 9/hr. reporter job requiring nearly 4 hours of total drive time a day.... picking up and going where the job is seems irrational UNLESS: guaranteed signed contract, happy with the salary/job duties, opportunity for advancement, happy with the area. My area? couldn't even get packages without drug dealer neighbors ripping them off. be VERY CAREFUL of going where the job is. relocating YOUR LIFE can be dangerous.... |
| Keith | Posted – 5/19/2008 8:55:24 PM | show profile I AGREE TOTALLY! That is what I've been saying throughout this whole post! Thank you for clarifying how irrational it is to just pick up and move for a job, when there are jobs in New York City (somewhere). I could lose the tiny bit of money I do have saved for rainy days! |
| Astera | Posted – 5/19/2008 9:15:18 PM | show profile Hey GhostWriter, it's tough to find any sort of journalism job, let alone one in NYC, in a recession, when you're competing against people with more experience. If you need to get a job to save up funds, check out Craigslist. I don't know what it's like in NY, but here in California, there are tons of marketing assistant positions that are advertised as "great for recent grads!" That probably means they pay about $12 an hour, but if that's what it takes to build up your savings, that's what you may need to do. Besides, taking an assistant job in marketing or corp communications or PR will allow you to use some of your writing skills. And yes, you should be trying to freelance. Try your community newspaper first. Just send a letter of interest and some of your clips from school. Or, branch out and offer copy-editing services. I've always been able to fall back on my copy-editing skills. In fact, when I was living at home and strapped for cash, I cobbled together a (small) income by copy-editing at my local paper, proofreading for a marketing agency, and writing "articles" for an interactive agency (go on searchforclasses.com to see what I mean by "articles.") Stop beating yourself up for not being able to find a full-time journalism job that exactly matches your skills. It's not likely to happen right away. Instead, take the skills that you do have, and figure out how to apply them to another industry. Over the summer, I had a contract proofreading/copy editing/copywriting job at a mortgage bank that paid me $55 an hour, and I only had to be there four hours a day. (Then they made me full-time and I was making less than I did part-time and I had a ton of other responsibilities and I hated it and I gave my notice last week. But that's another story.) The bottom line is, instead of dwelling on what you can't get, start focusing on what you can get. And I bet that by playing up your research skills, your writing skills, your ability to multitask, your ability to listen well, etc., etc., you can find freelance work and/or a marketing/PR assistant job. Maybe it's not perfect, but when you need money, you need money. Oh, and P.S.--If you do end up moving, it doesn't cost $1500 to rent a U-Haul. My husband and I moved from NorCal to SoCal this year with a ton of furniture, and our giant U-Haul rental cost about $875. And when I moved from CA to Evanston for J-school, I checked in three suitcases on the plane and then rented a pickup truck and prowled garage sales to furnish my studio apartment. I got a new bed, but the rest of the furniture cost about $500 total. It may take some creativity, but the stepping stones you need to get to where you really want to be are out there. Find them. ------ www.adventuresofastera.blogspot.com |
| writesonwater | Posted – 5/19/2008 10:33:02 PM | show profile | email poster I want to point out that applying for jobs in general is a much easier process than getting a journalism job in New York, so now you've stated that's an area you need to work on, there are tons of books, websites, advice columns, etc. to help. Time-tested things that work. THe first thing I'd say is to take your journalism resume and to tilt it toward jobs that seem more plentiful. Noticing ads and openings for administrative assistants? Focus on your organizational skills, strengths in clerical, whatever. Read an article online about how to get that kind of work. Your resume must not focus on a journalism objective if you need to get a non-journalism job. Find other ways to express your strengths than journalistic ones. Communication, organization, team work, good with numbers, great with people -- these sorts of things (expressed in your inimitable way of course) are universal and can transfer from job to job. Also, have you talked to the alumni office of your journalism school? They may be able to help you get any job, even just a real-world one. I'm concerned about the idea presented here that temp jobs and agency-placed positions treat you like you're no one. I worked several temp things (the money was decent) between J gigs when we moved to a new city, and found they just needed people to play on the team and get stuff done. Had I wanted to be recognized for my writing abilities, I would have been met with things ranging from polite disinterest to disbelief, no doubt. I'd like to point out that while some on these boards talk about headhunters, few writing journalists except at the way upper levels are likely to be able to use those. So don't get confused. And for the handful of jobs that are advertised, that's the tip of the iceberg. The bulk of the rest of the entry level jobs are gotten through contact -- NOT "CONNECTIONS." It's not "who you know" -- it's who you've connected with, by making an entry-level approach. A good letter to the editor, short and to the point, with a polished resume and a few clips, followed up with a phone call. No clips? Freelance some. And how to get freelancing -- that's another thread. Feeling panicky? This is the place to vent that, get a little understanding and some help. But when you hit the job search trail, leave panic and anger and hostility behind, or you won't get the job. Those are attributes no employer will favor. |
| seeattleme2 | Posted – 5/19/2008 11:31:52 PM | show profile Moving is ot cheap, and not always possible. You'll need (these days) to prove you make three times your rent to rent a place, plus two months rent and a security, moving across country in a U-Haul at 4 bucks a gallon gas will NOT be cheap, and you'll need the things you need when you start a job (probably a decent wardrobe which most college students don't have), you may even need a car if you try and get a job as a reporter (most papers require it). And no one is giving out these things for practically free these days, you've gotta have established, stellar credit, you've gotta prove you can pay your bills and you have a job (or get mom and dad to cosign and they're hearing every morning on the Today show from those finance harpies that they're not supposed to do this). I don't envy anyone looking for a job. And this industry is hurting. That said, I would try a regional magazine in a cheap city. Sorry, but that's all I can advise you to do. Portland monthly. Philadelphia Magazine. Atlanta Magazine. Baltimore Magazine. Texas Monthly. You may have to start off as an intern and work nights in a bar or something (I did). ANother thought: Try getting jobs with the University Press and Media relations. Or media relations at PLanned parenthood or some other non profit (they have those all over the country. Many journalists dovetail these careers into jobs as reporters or writers later on. But don't try this in NY City. Christ. Major magazines are laying people off, including the NY Times and Time Inc. The job market's flooded there, and it's too expensive for someone who sounds as desperate as you do (by despertate I don't mean pathetic, I just mean that you need a job NOW). SOme of these college grads an hang out in NYC indefinitely on Mommy and Daddy's dime until they find a job--and these are often people with $$$ and connections to begin with. This is what you're competing against. It's not realistic to think you'll get a job anytime soon. |
| seeattleme2 | Posted – 5/19/2008 11:41:07 PM | show profile And BTWE, the move doesn't have to be permanent. Just for two or three years. Then at least you have a place to come back to in NYC when you've established yourself better. I had to do it the opposite, pick up and move to NYC from the West coast with $500, a suitcase and a typewriter (no, didn;t have a personal computer). On the fucking train because the airfare was too expensive. I slept on couches and rotated addresses in NYC and Brooklyn for the first entire year. It took almost a year to get a freelance job, and two years to get a job as an Editorial Assistant. And this was with a prestigious internship under my belt. No one here is clueless about what you're up against. But if it's a good job you want, you have to go get it. It's not going to be offfered up for you. Lots of people out there want jobs. There are more job applicants in journalism than there are jobs to be had. That's always been a reality in this business, and your journalism teachers should have prepared you for that reality. |
| Grateful Deadline | Posted – 5/20/2008 12:15:32 AM | show profile >>Just like to comment on this. As it's already been stated, it costs a lot more than $1500 to move. In fact, $1500 is about the equivalent of a 1 day rental of a SMALL U-Haul van. You older people who haven't relocated in a while really have no idea about the costs of these things nowadays. << I moved in January, and it didn't cost this much. I moved an entire one-bedrooom apartment with two porches of furniture and a garage full of junk. Three years ago, during a financial pinch I took a two-month job renting U-Hauls, and nothing approaches $1,500 a day; besides, one-way rentals are cheaper than in-town rentals, because you don't have to pay the per-mile rate! There *are* journalism jobs out there, but maybe not if you've sat on your hands for two years. Get your rear in gear. It's hard to believe that after two years, you don't have a clue about job hunting. But here goes: Ads are the worst way to find jobs. That's because ads mean you're applying with a crowd of other job seekers. Don't rule them out, but don't rely on them either. I'll list some job sites at the bottom of this post. Best way: Hunt up a copy of the Editor&Publisher Yearbook at the public library or your old school's library or j-department. Figure out where you might like to go, and pick out some newspapers there. (If you don't know anything outside NYC, I can't help you, and I'd even suggest you forget about journalism on that basis alone.) Send a cover letter, resume and clips to the managing editor. Follow up with a phone call, presumably to see that the ME got what you sent. Ask about the job situation now and in the future. If there are no jobs, ask whether you can check back in a month or so. Then do it. If you like the sound of things, you may even trump up a bogus trip you were going to take, and ask the ME if you could meet for coffee while on this fake trip. I got my best jobs via this method. If you don't have clips, don't bother applying -- you'll be outdone by the competition. Get clips. If you don't know how to paste up your clips, contact your j-school for guidance, and never send originals. Also, contact your school's career center for guidance on how to gloss over your two-year hiatus when writing your cover letter. I have to say that, the more of your posts I read, the angrier I get. It's a good thing you posted; now get busy. Take some of the advice people have given you. On the other hand, maybe you're not meant to have a job it journalism. It is a profession requiring initiative, flexibility and resourcefulness. Maybe you're meant to stay in your parents' home and cry foul. (Can you tell I'm annoyed at your "can't-do" attitude?) Here you go: www.poynter.org: Poynter Institute for Media Studies, has a job board www.freep.com/jobspage: Detroit Free Press job-hunt info for students and recent grads, includes links to job banks www.journalism.berkeley.edu/jobs; UC Berkeley journalism job board www.csne.org; California Society of Newspaper Editors, has a journalism job bank www.asne.org; American Society of Newspaper Editors, holds journalism job fairs all over the country www.ccnma.org; California Chicano News Media Association, cosponsors a major journalism job fair with USC, AAJA, NABJ brimming with internships and entry-level jobs nationwide There are a bunch more. I don't know what else to tell you, I'm so annoyed. |
| Keith | Posted – 5/20/2008 1:02:25 AM | show profile Well Grateful Deadline, KNOW ONE ASKED YOU HOW YOU FELT! You want to know what I'm annoyed at: The countless number of recent grads who have a degree in journalism coming here for some advice and those people who act holier than thou when they give some advice on this board. As I've said before, I have been temping on and off for the past 2 years. I contribute to my household along with my parents. I didn't stay at home for two years straight and did absolutely nothing! So don't you dare say you are annoyed with me! Then stupid ass people tell me to pick up and move like it's nothing! THIS BOARD IS WHAT MAKES ME SO ANNOYED! If someone doesn't know how to apply to jobs, its because their guidance counselours failed to tell them these things in college, just like our journalism professors failed to tell us that there are no journalism jobs out their, because they themselves would not have a job teaching a dead discipline. And then we come to this board for help and we get ridicule with every word of advice that is offered! THIS BOARD IS NOT A GOOD PLACE FOR BEGINNERS! You expect us to know everything before we post a topic. THIS IS THE LAST TIME I'M COMING TO THIS BOARD, OR EVEN THIS POST! IF YOU WANT TO COMMENT OR SOMETHING! BE MY GUEST! BUT I JUST DON'T CARE ANYMORE! |
| JeanMarie | Posted – 5/20/2008 1:25:01 AM | show profile | email poster First things first... You need to get a thick skin to survive and prosper in any career. You need to learn to keep your cool in tough situations. So check your frustration and step away from the CAPS and !!! marks. Yes, we're in a recession, but there ARE jobs in journalism. What does your portfolio look like? Do you have published clips? What did you do for internships while you were in school? Start there. .. Next.. Have you ever worked at all? Part-time jobs while in school? After school while in high school? What experience (and references) do you have at anything? Finally, what is your dream job? And don't tell me "any job." I want to know what you are truly passionate about. If you're frustrated and don't want to answer here, just email me. |
| seeattleme2 | Posted – 5/20/2008 1:30:44 AM | show profile okay this post has got to be fake. Ghostwriter, I hate it when people do this, and a few typos I can understand, I can't type for shit -- but it's "No one asked you," not "Know one asked you". make a mistake like that in a cover letter or on a resume and you have possibly one reason you are not getting job offers. Your hostile attitude may be another. Most who have been hiring journalists for entry level positions are hiring people who can do a lot of boring-ass grunt work. So they really key into any aggressive or hostile attitude you may exhibit. No one is saying that moving anywhere, let a lone across country, is easy. But in this job market and economy, if you want a job THAT BAD, it may be necessary. And potential employers will admore your balls if and when you do so. And it'll be easier for you to get the job you want when you return. |
| worldofnatasha | Posted – 5/20/2008 4:14:02 AM | show profile jeepers, Ghostwriter, take a deep breath and relax. you have said a few times there are no jobs in NYC, then when people tell you to move, you get mad and say you don't want to move. so what response exactly are you looking for? do you expect someone on here to say "I have an awesome journalism job that I'd be happy to offer you"? because that seems like a long shot. people have offered a bunch of advice and thoughts and all, (get clips, network, work other jobs to save money, etc.) and it doesn't seem to be what you want to hear, so maybe if you clarified your question better people would give you a better answer, but you just sound so frustrated and outraged by everything someone is suggesting. you said, "how do I apply for a job at a retail store?" was that serious? if so -- you get dressed nicely (comparable to the way the sales folks dress.) wait til the store isn't too busy, then ask to talk to the manager. when he appears, ask if you can fill out an application (bring a pen) fill it out right there, give it back to him, and say "I'd love to be considered for any open positions you might have." If he doesn't hire you, do the exact same thing at every store in the mall until someone hires you. |
| mkelly | Posted – 5/20/2008 7:51:31 AM | show profile Two points... "Do I just walk in the bank or store and ask if any positions are available? I don't know how to really look for a job." Suddenly I'm starting to buy the Republican line that kids today learn crap and are idiots. How do you make it through college without knowing how to find a job? Even the community colleges these days have career services offices-- what do you think they're there for? Yeesh, are we really raising a generation of kids who don't know how to to work? Did that happen while I was out working? Second, GhostWriter-- I'm one of those editors still hiring people from time to time. I'm one of those people who will sign your paycheck. You're really not impressive, at least here. So many newbies in this industry *just don't get it* and wonder why they can't find a job in the business. It's not the business. It's you. You will NEVER build a successful career in journalism by living only in New York. You MUST find a way to get to another city, and I don't care if you have to sell a kidney to do it. (There's a black market for that stuff in New York, isn't there?) As someone else said here, you did not invent being broke. Scrape up some cash, move to a smaller city, and get rolling. The plain truth is that most newbies *shouldn't* be in journalism My first FT job was under a brutal editor, at a relentlessly punishing newsroom environment. He did that deliberately: half the hires left after five months, and half stayed for two or three years. That first half just came up with reasons why they couldn't do something, and they didn't last. The half of us who stayed learned huge amounts about being reporters, and those skills put me where I am today. Right now, Ghost, you seem like you belong in the former camp. And I just noticed you misspelled 'definitely' in your original post. This is where you tell me to get over the little things, and I think to myself, 'if he can't get the little things right, why would I trust him on the big things.' I learned that in my first job too. This thread is now boring. Someone please cut it. |
