Topic: I want results

1–25 out of 29 messages
Author Message
wineaux Posted – 6/18/2008 10:24:07 PM | show profile
I started a complete change in bettering my health. I want to lose weight and tone up. The doc said I don't really need to lose more than some vanity pounds of around 10 or 15, but I'd love to lose about 20.

I joined a gym and have been working out every other day. Half an hour of swimming laps, half an hour on the treadmill and anywhere from 25 to 35 minutes on the circuit of resistance training.(I don't want to bulk, just tone).

It's only been a few weeks and there is a big difference in the look of my body. I'm much firmer and clothes are fitting way better.

I have not lost much weight, however. The doc told me that the muscle I will gain will weigh more than fat, so I've taken that into account.

I have changed my diet as well, but not dramatically, as I have always ate pretty well. I have just cut out most of the carbs, am taking supplements and have cut down fatty foods and am eating more raw fruit and vegs.

I am wondering if there is something else to be done to see a more rapid weight loss. I know three weeks is still early in the game, but I want results hopefully by the end of the summer.
westsidestory Posted – 6/18/2008 10:31:35 PM | show profile
Relax. First you lose the inches, then the pounds. You are on your way. A book to look at: Larry North's SLIM DOWN FOR LIFE. Lost me 30 lbs on that strategy and have kept it off for nine years - every time I feel myself slipping, it's back to the book. Check it out!
Vox-o Posted – 6/18/2008 11:17:55 PM | show profile
Stop thinking about weight loss
Don't use it as your barometer anymore. Use a measuring tape instead. As your doctor said, muscle weighs much more than fat.

I started working out a year ago. I went from looking average to being a serious head-turner. I've only lost 3 lbs since I began, yet I've lost 4 inches around my hips.

Rapid weight loss doesn't last! Gradual is the only thing that sticks.

You are doing great work, so keep it up. Just keep doing what you are doing, and you will fulfill your goals.
wineaux Posted – 6/19/2008 2:12:19 AM | show profile
I will def. get the book, westside. Thanks for the recommendation.

I was told to not even get a scale and just focus on the physical work. I guess I just need to get it out of my head.

It's been a long time since I felt this motivated, and now I can honestly say I don't know what took me so damn long to take fitness more seriously. I'm really enjoying the workouts, and how much more energy I have. I'm sleeping better and it really has given me a much better mental outlook.

I LOVE the swimming. It's really easy to get in the zone and do the laps. I really works so many muscles I didn't even know I had.

writesonwater Posted – 6/19/2008 4:01:34 AM | show profile
A friend of mine has started swimming and she feels like a whole new woman.
Mag Girl Posted – 6/19/2008 9:58:54 AM | show profile
Your doc is right- you're just gaining muscle :) Which of course is great, and it will make you lose weight in the long run. DOn't give up! Most people have 6 weeks or so before results really start kicking in. Hang in there!
wineaux Posted – 6/19/2008 11:25:48 AM | show profile
I can't say enough about the swimming. I get out of the water feeling weak and so utterly relaxed. The gym I go to has adult lap hours in the am and in the evening, and they play music while you swim and there are plenty of people around to keep me moving so that I don't screw up everyone else's rhythm. I think it is really fantastic exercise for anyone. I see lots of seniors and people w/ disabilities or physical limitations that can really keep themselves moving.
df Posted – 6/19/2008 11:53:13 AM | show profile
hi WIneaux,

I lost 30 pounds in 4 months and I am aiming for 20 more... and I ate very well before too (organic, balanced etc), but just sort of the wrong mix and a bit too much of everything every day. And I am a foodie, wine person and thought I'd never be thin-thin again. Sor tof settled in with the shapely idea, but now I lost weight without effort, while eating away.

so here are my success tips:
don't cut out any food items/groups, make it a balanced mix every meal, make sure you are high in protein, and leave carbs in there, but loose all of the fat/sugar. No olive oil, sunflower seeds, cheese, and milk products unless thye are low fat/0%fat.

For snack attacks go to Glenny's healthy snack foods, and buy chips, and snacks. tastes great and will make you loose pounds while snacking on chips and fudge cookies.

never eat more then what would fit into your hand in one meal

eat several small meals a day. you should be hungry again after 2 hours or you did overeat on the meal before.

switch to red wine exclusively, and hard white liquor.

buy 'roll-ups' (a wrap brand, make sure to only get those) and make yourself lots of tasty wraps.

eat oatmeal and almond milk with total whole wheat cereal for breakfast.

wasa bread and fin crisp are good if you want bread

eat almonds and no other nuts

and go to 1600 calories a day. write everything down you eat. everything. add the calories up at the end of the day.

Seriously, it works. eating something tasty while typing, and still shedding pounds.

Printingman Posted – 6/19/2008 12:58:32 PM | show profile | email poster
Read the book Body for Life by (The guy who is CEO of EAS) his name escaped me at the moment but anyhow he came up with a great food and workout routine that really works. At least it worked for me. I lost around 30lbs and am now riding my bike and surfing regularly and can actually fit into my wetsuit.
UGoGirl Posted – 6/19/2008 1:16:09 PM | show profile
I would agree to stop focusing so much on weight loss, and focus more on health.

By changing my eating habits (avoiding dairy and meat, although eat fish now and then), my blood pressure dropped from 128/78 to 104/78. I wasn't really even trying to lower my blood pressure (mostly changed eating for environmental reasons and to lower cholesterol for long-term health), but it's certainly a good thing for long-term health.

Don't despair that you're weight isn't falling... over time it will, slowly is best, and there are other healthy changes going on in your body that you aren't aware of.
pholiday Posted – 6/19/2008 1:26:10 PM | show profile
The same thing happened to me.

The only thing that will actually melt off more of the fat is cardio. And when you think you are pushing yourself hard enough--push harder.

Oh, and carb cycle. It is a great way to trick your body. Eat a higher amount of carbs and fat for 2 days, so your body will adjust to that amount Maybe 1700-2000 or so cal). Then eat really low fat (maybe 1200-1300 calories) for the next two days. Make sure you go right back to your higher calories (or regular--1500 ish) after 2 days though--so your body does not go into starvation mode.

Oh, and this was actually a great article. Who would have thought on WikiHOW?!

http://www.wikihow.com/Lose-Weight-Fast
wineaux Posted – 6/19/2008 2:35:02 PM | show profile
I do agree with the increase in cardio. I never was much into it, but the results already can't be denied. Before I joined the gym, I did a mixture of yoga and pilates three days a week, hiked/walked the dog for over an hour 3-4 days a week and led a fairly active weekend. It wasn't enough, even though I make it a point to be active every day. The cardio and the weights is what brings faster success. I just don't think I can be one of those people on the treadmill two hours a day. Hence, the swimming.

I always thought that cooking exclusively with olive oil was good. I use extra virgin olive oil for cooking, NEVER butter, and never any other type of oil other than a dash of sesame when I make stir-fry.

I probably eat way too much dairy. I love yogurt and cheese.

I'm thinking of going to a nutritionist in my area. My friend went and she had her journal her food for a month, then they sat down and went over what was good and bad about her diet, and then made adjustments.

Another issue I am having is that due to the exercise, I am voraciously, shakingly hungry around 4 or 5 pm every day.

I LOVE almond milk. I have no problem adding that into my diet and ommitting the low fat milk I use now. I hope it tastes good in coffee.

I need to write all of this stuff down in my fitness journal!

I think the writer in me is more motivated when I have a list of what I should and shouldn't do and eat.

df Posted – 6/19/2008 3:14:54 PM | show profile
a few surprises I had when going through my food intake with my nutritionist:
olive oil - is your enemy. took it out of my cooking, hubby and I lost 5 pounds asap
sesame and all kind of seeds, super high in fat and calories... took it out, 2 more pounds gone
dairy, the hardest part. love yogurt and cheese. here are my substitutes: emmi 0% yogurt, vermont cheese 0% fat vermont butter & cheese http://butterandcheese.net/ also their quark is pretty good.

as for the hunger attacks, please eat. I have learned from my nutritionist that the number one reason why i gained weight was that I don't eat enough. now I eat ll the time, including snacks, and I have lost all that weight. The second I feel hungry, I eat something. have apples, bananas, glennys snacks, organic apple sauce, yogurts and so on handy, and eat!

good luck.
questoo1 Posted – 6/19/2008 4:23:52 PM | show profile
initially if you are trying to loose weight scale weight absolutely matters. If you have 10-20 lbs to loose, well I can guarantee you are not adding that much in muscle weight especially in a few weeks. Also, don't get caught up in the "bulking up" from lifting weights..its a myth..you only gain size if you increase your calories.

Since there are lots of moving parts most of which has been covered here, i'd say the only thing I could add would be to do interval training. Increase your cardio dramatically for 2 minutes then coast then repeat. Personally, I think swimming is great excerize, but not great for weight loss. Just stay with it, if you really want to get serious talk to a nurtritionist and put together a sensible program.
Bleak Spouse Posted – 6/19/2008 4:56:49 PM | show profile
don't excersize every other day. excersize every day with maybe 1 rest day and do at least 1 hour of cardio and not at a fast pace or you'll burn out. don't ever go hungry but don't eat big meals and stay away from pasta and drinks that add too many calories (fruit drinks can do that as much as soda). also, if by chance you're taking any medication you should know that that can slow down your metabolism and make it very hard to lose weight.
writesonwater Posted – 6/22/2008 2:19:44 AM | show profile
Daily biking or walking is all that's ever worked for me.
df Posted – 6/22/2008 12:12:31 PM | show profile
loosing weight is about 2/3 eating habits and 1/3 training/workout (according to the professionals around me). many people overemphasize the workout without making radical changes to their eating resulting in less weight loss.
wineaux Posted – 6/22/2008 1:29:40 PM | show profile
I'm going to the nutritionist. I'm journalings right now what I am eating, and will be meeting with her in a couple of weeks.

I know my eating habits, while healthy, probably need to be tapered. (Small meals is certainly a good idea). I'm willing to give the diet more time, as I know what I'm eating right now is good for me, especially since my workout routine went up about 75%.
I used to walk the dog at a fast pace a few days a week, do about half an hour of yoga/pilates 25 to 30 mins. three days a week, occasionally bikeride and hike. All that stuff is now just "filler" in my workout routine, and it is absolutely laughable that I thought that was a workout.


I really appreciate all of the great advice I've gotten on here. I've taken note of everything everyone has said, and am going to work w/ my doctor and the nutritionist to see what's right for me. I'm moving in the right direction, that much I know. While I haven't lost much weight, my physical appearance is really improving. I have so much more energy, and it has really rid me of a great deal of moodiness. I find that the more active I am, the more I am gravitating towards healthier deicsions with my diet.

And, I bought a little white bikini last week, (something I would NOT have done two months ago) and was pleased by my reflection in the mirror. I may actually wear it to the beach in about a month or so. I think goal-wise, I will be about halfway near my target body, with or without the weight loss.
ferdinand Posted – 6/23/2008 12:50:48 AM | show profile
olive oil
this is such an interesting thread. good luck to you, wineaux, sounds like you're totally on the road.

but df - what's that about olive oil?

my question, really, is if you cut it out, what did you replace it with? i don't fry much, but i do saute greens every once in a while, and make omelettes or whatever. what did you switch in for grease for things like this - canola?
wineaux Posted – 6/23/2008 1:08:44 AM | show profile
Thanks, ferd. I am in agreement w/ you about the olive oil as well. It has so many health merits that I find it hard for me to replace it w/ any other oil, despite how fattening it may be.

I saute fish, chicken and veggies in e.v.o.o., usually no more than a teaspoon or two, so I really can't see myself quitting it.
dribbledrive1 Posted – 6/23/2008 2:52:25 AM | show profile
This is a marathon, not a sprint. Develop and keep good eating and workout habits and you'll reach your ideal weight (and more importantly body mass index) fast enough. The key is to do stuff you're going to stick with, not little tricks for quick weight loss that you won't be able to maintain for the rest of your life.
questoo1 Posted – 6/23/2008 10:17:16 AM | show profile
you need healthy fat such as olive oil (nuts, avocado, etc..)for a variety of metabolic functions..the issue is that it needs to be used with lots of moderation. You don't need alot to get the benefits and it still packs lots of calories (I think 150 for a tblspoon?) - so if you need to eat around 1600 calories a day to loose weight, well thats almost 10% of your daily intake right there..and we all know how little a tablespoon really is.
df Posted – 6/23/2008 12:48:39 PM | show profile
I replaced it with soy sauce, and switched to grilling a lot of my meats and fish. Soy sauce tasted pretty good, if you stir fry, and combined with a non stick pan works great.

of course olive oil is healthy, but it has tons of calories, so I opt to use it in my salad dressing, which just doesn't taste good without it.

I love avacado, and again, in strick moderation it is okay, but check your calorie intake out at calorie counter or similar web sites, and all of the sudden weight gain makes a lot of sense.

I discovered my beloved pre-dinner cheese snacks are about 1200 calories, which would be half of my calorie intake to keep my weight (and it was just a snack). so quietly I overate every day by 500 calories (good, healthy ones albeit) and gained weight, naturally, though at the point I couldn't explain why, since I thought I ate so well balanced. As I alway joke: my body hasn't tasted a jelly donut or bacon in years - but apparently one can get fat on avocado, cheese and olive oil just the same way. It's just more expensive lol.
wineaux Posted – 6/23/2008 1:00:12 PM | show profile
I was at the doc this am, df, and I could have sworn that a woman in a Self magazine spread about losing weight was you (based on your pic in the "who the hell are you thread".

Was that you?

I don't know of too many 6 ft redheads in the media industry who've lost large amounts of weight, so I thought that there was a chance it was you.

On that note, my doc agreed I should keep the olive oil in my diet, as I use small quanitities and the fat is good fat.
He's still sticking with the original synopsis that I don't need to lose as much as I think, so I am going to err on the side of caution and not be too focused on the weight, but rather on the muscle/tone I want to gain.
rhino writer Posted – 6/23/2008 1:18:12 PM | show profile
I belonged to a gym for about a year and a half, did weights and elliptical 2-3 times/week. Didn't lose weight and wasn't trying to, but I really really toned up and clothes that formerly didn't look good now did. Don't focus on the weight, especially since you think you need to lose twice as much as your doctor thinks. Focus on being healthy and how your clothes fit. Numbers on a scale are just that -- you don't want to be one of those people who eternally obsess about that last five pounds, which makes no significant difference, anyway.
1–25 out of 29 messages