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| ISR | Posted – 7/11/2008 9:24:44 AM | show profile Regarding notes, my editor at Family Circle wants them for a feature, and it isn't even a sensitive story, just a charitable one. Is it worth arguing over? The only hassle is that I have about 20 pages of interview notes, all in shorthand, so it would take a while to fix them up. |
| seeattleme | Posted – 7/11/2008 12:22:23 PM | show profile ISR, type them up and give them to Family Circle. It's probably in your contrat or in the fact-checking instructions that you have to turn them in. Either type em up or--if no time--photocopy them. Leave the translation to them. Like I said, if they can't read them, that's usually not the point. The point is they want to SEE them and have RECORD of them because 1) it says so in the contract 2)it's their policy and 3) they have a copy that ensures you don't change anything later. |
| abqwriter | Posted – 7/11/2008 12:25:39 PM | show profile When I've turned in notes with a story, I scan them and send them as is so that the editor has the originals. |
| 1410dhm | Posted – 7/11/2008 4:12:57 PM | show profile >So I guess this is the third magazine this editor has ruined. It was crapola well before she came aboard, but she's definitely hastened the decline. Before long I look for cover blurbs along the lines of Woman's World ("LOSE 300 POUNDS IN 3 HOURS!!!"). ;) |
| seeattleme | Posted – 7/11/2008 4:46:44 PM | show profile yeah, it started with the moe to Birmingham--except I assume now it's out of NY, since there is no way in hell Ellen Kunes moved her family to Alabama. She didn't exactly ruin Mademoiselle, though keeping Art Cooper's wife on until she was geriatric (Kunes's boss) had something to do with that--at a critical, Sassy,breaking point in the eaerly 90s the magazine completely lost its footing--and by the time they fired Levin Cooper it was too late to regain it. She had no hand in ruining Redbook (that was her Cosmo boss, Kate White's, near doing). And I don't think she even did much at Elle--Amy Gross was in there pretty quickly to cleanup. But Health? Yeah. She's part of a system that is just old and tired and done and bad for magazines. She knows people in high places (Hearst Corporate, for one) and that gets her all kinds of second and third and fourth chances. As with most of the editors of womens magazines--which are all headed down down down hill. Advertising at Cosmo is down. Having an editor in her friggin 50s doesn't help much when your demographis is less 18-34 than, well, uh, 16-25. And eventually, they'll figure that out--and fire the lameasses who hire their friends who are all 40 and 50 something, the same old same olds, and get a younger , hipper, hotter, smarter editor (to match young, hip smart hot American female readers). But until then cathie Black and her recruiter(s) in HR keep making six figures while firing magazine staffers for not "performing" under editors THEY hired. It's sick. |
| Mr. Biggles | Posted – 7/11/2008 5:11:12 PM | show profile It's still in Birmingham, as far as I know ... |
| seeattleme | Posted – 7/11/2008 5:41:40 PM | show profile I eamnt she didn't do much at Oprah, not Elle. Amy Gross was at Elle before O. Kunes was never at Elle. And never could be. Thank God. I can't believe Health is publishing out of Birmingham. They must have some deal where Kunes and staff work from NYC. Cause I'm tellin you, there is just NO way-- those women won't even go to Queens... |
| Metro Writer | Posted – 7/14/2008 12:06:03 PM | show profile Back to notes and contracts. Transcripts are written copies of what a person said. Notes include what an interviewee, police reports, maybe even a press release about that person or his or her organization. Notes may also include a comment that this person had a huge hole in one shoe, a referral to a source about another article you plan to write, and the telephone number of the new organic dry cleaner in your area. For legal purposes, you need to keep your notes for a stipulated time period after your story is published, but that doesn't mean that the editor or publisher is entitled to anything but your the transcript related to the story for which you were paid. You can strike out any clause in a contract that demands your notes or all your rights. Contracts are negotiated between two parties. If you don't come to an agreement, then you have to decide whether it's worth working with that publication. |
| seeattleme | Posted – 7/14/2008 4:15:25 PM | show profile Maetro writer, they ARE entitled to your notes if it sys so in the contract of agreement, or materials supplement to the contract as required by research, which we have already stipulated is the case with many women's magazines. |
| arewrites | Posted – 7/15/2008 5:39:58 AM | show profile Can we step back for a minute? I think we're talking about two different things here. There's a difference between turning over your notes as evidence for factchecking purposes and handing over (or selling for a paltry fee) your notes for the publication to use to write the article in-house. Your notes are yours. And unless the pubs offer a significant fee -- one higher, imo, than the actual fee for the article -- they should stay yours. |
| seeattleme | Posted – 7/15/2008 1:14:28 PM | show profile arewrites, that point I was--I made it. See above. The conversation got off n a tangent. That's pretty evident. |
