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can the liberal media save obama?
Posted - 11/13/2013 8:29:03 PM | show profile | flag this post
June 15, 2009--President Obama “I know that there are millions of Americans who are content with their health care coverage — they like their plan and, most importantly, they value their relationship with their doctor. They trust you. And that means that no matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American people: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.”
polls show obama's approval and favorability ratings are falling.
americans no long view the president has honest and trustworthy.
the new york times and other liberal media outlets are trying to save dear leader.
they are failing. even troo-beleevers are losing faith.
how long before troo-beleevers are told to drank the kool-aid?
Posted - 11/14/2013 8:17:24 AM | show profile | flag this post
CaN The Liberal Media Save Obama?
Interesting question. Let me know when they begin that effort and we can see how it works out.
Posted - 11/14/2013 9:28:28 AM | show profile | flag this post
Hey, it's not just the liberal media...
Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy are all in this together!
Posted - 11/14/2013 10:10:57 AM | show profile | flag this post
Barring a Democrat takeover of Congress, Obama is done.
Why would Republicans want to give a weak president a "victory" on issue?
Trust is hard to regain. Just ask Bill Clinton and the Bushies.
Posted - 11/14/2013 9:23:14 PM | show profile | flag this post
Yeah, let's ask Bill Clinton
...whose ratings at the end of his second term were the highest rated of any president since World War II.
Word to the wise (not that you're listening, you have to be wise to): simply stating an opinion strongly doesn't make it the right opinion. Facts matter.
Posted - 11/14/2013 10:01:24 PM | show profile | flag this post
The % of people who viewed Clinton as honest and trustworthy after his lie? The rest of his term?
Do tell oh wise one.
Posted - 11/14/2013 10:15:17 PM | show profile | flag this post
Clinton was revered at a level equal to Reagan at the end of his term.
There were polls that showed a kick to the balls was more positive that George W. Bush at the mid-point of his second term -- and it went downhill from there.
The difference between Obama and the last president is that no one died from Obama's statement. Heck, if people HAD kept those snake oil policies -- they might have died. They're better off without them.
But nearly 5,000 Americans died from Bush's claim that Iraq had WMDs.
Legacies, Quinn. Right wingers shouldn't talk about 'em.
Posted - 11/14/2013 10:17:54 PM | show profile | flag this post
"can the liberal media save obama?" That was your starting point. From what I ask?
From a job approval rating to a favorable rating; he's been averaging in the 40-49% rating average for years now. Congress is about less than 10%. "polls show obama's approval and favorability ratings are falling." No, you're wrong. "americans no long view the president has honest and trustworthy." Where do you get that? "dear leader" "troo-beleevers" Thought we went through that. Shows that you're an asshole.
Now, back on topic, if there was a topic...Obama did today waht very few presidents have done. Took the fall for everything. Of course he had nothing to do with the ACA rollout or website, but he accepted responsbility for everything.
Kind of refreshing to say the least. "President Barack Obama repeatedly acknowledged Thursday that the problematic rollout of his signature health care law has damaged his credibility with the American public.
“I think it's legitimate for them to expect me to have to win back some credibility on this health care law in particular and on a whole range of these issues in general,” Obama said during a lengthy press conference characterized by a series of unusually candid mea culpas. “And, you know, that's on me.”
“There have been times where I thought we got, you know, slapped around a little bit unjustly,” he said. “This one's deserved, all right? It's on us.”
You want to talk about poll numbers?? Maybe...just maybe...if Dubya was this honest about his screw-ups his numbers wouldn't have been in the 20's....
Posted - 11/15/2013 7:48:22 AM | show profile | flag this post
And with the "Trust is hard to regain" as premise, I don't know about you, but if I don't trust someone as President I SURE don't give him my approval. I have a hard time imagining anyone would.
As I said before, your premise is bogus. Apparently you, like GW Bush, have a hard time admitting fault. Fortunately, the guy in the oval office now doesn't have such a problem with vanity that he can't take his hits when he deserves them.
Posted - 11/15/2013 7:48:59 AM | show profile | flag this post
That "you" being
...of course, Quintessential.
Posted - 11/15/2013 10:46:36 AM | show profile | flag this post
The guy in the oval office now doesn't have such a problem with vanity?
Are you kidding? Is there any point in arguing with Obama supporters?
When i say Clinton and the Bushies lost credibility and the trust of the American people, polls back me up.
When i say trust is hard to regain, well, what do the polls say?
Stop moving the goalposts.
Fact check me. Prove me right.
The latest Quinnipiac poll is brutal. Q poll backs up Pew, Gallup and a few other polls that show O's ratings plunge.
Obama faces a matter of trust
To posts here, and most Liberals, Americans losing trust in Obama is because Americans just don't trust the black guy. Not because Obama lied. Several times.
Posted - 11/15/2013 10:51:16 AM | show profile | flag this post
Left wingers lean on accusations of racism
because they just don't want to admit their guy is grossly incomptent. His "several months" as an elected senator just does not give him the background for the job...and neither do his paradigm nor radical agenda.
Posted - 11/15/2013 1:43:09 PM | show profile | flag this post
Con john/crotch quinn/parma putzo have you said the pledge today?
Posted - 11/15/2013 1:45:37 PM | show profile | flag this post
Croooozer have you consumed your bucket of lard and pile of trans fat today?
Posted - 11/15/2013 3:53:33 PM | show profile | flag this post
Bush left office with about a 30-35% approval rating (after bottoming out at 25% around Election Day, 2008)
Bill Clinton left office with a healthy 65% or so approval rating:
That's very similar to Reagan's exit approval rating. From Gallup:
"Reagan's last two Gallup job approval ratings before he left office were 57% in mid-November and 63% in December 1988."
Consider yourself fact-checked.
And don't forget this about Bill Clinton -- it's at the link above for Clinton -- his HIGHEST approval rating came as Republicans were in the midst of impeaching him in late 1998.
His approval hit 73%.
Posted - 11/15/2013 5:15:10 PM | show profile | flag this post
Nleer, only in moments of weakness. Thanks for caring. I use to post under the notch id. I have no idea who these other posters are.
Etaoin, keep moving the posts and changing the subject. Whatever helps your side win.
Posted - 11/15/2013 8:36:11 PM | show profile | flag this post
I have missed your posts.
I forgot just how vapid and pointless the right wing can be.
Thanks for reminding me.
Thinkerate! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!
Posted - 11/15/2013 9:27:48 PM | show profile | flag this post
Not great. But certainly not horrible.
I always go with the average. 41.5% approve 54.2% disapprove.
Lord knows the West Wing isn't thrilled with that...but seriously??? " O's ratings plunge."??? "americans no long view the president has honest and trustworthy"??? " trying to save dear leader"??? Are you that politically ignorant?
Said it before--will say it again--WHEN Obama hits the low 20's, send up a flare and I'll buy you lunch.
Posted - 11/15/2013 10:38:24 PM | show profile | flag this post
The president's numbers will get much worse before
you can even wish they will start to get better.
The web site ain't gonna be fixed by the end of this month. I can almost guarantee that. When an IT project is f-ed up as badly as this one is...and it took three years to build it...there's NO WAY it can be fixed in two weeks. They'll have to go all the way back to the requirements phase and get them right, then do a new high level design that implements the corrected requirements, a detailed design during which the actual code is written that implements the design and then comes the test and fix cycle.
I'll bet there's not 50 percent of the original code thatll be salvageable.
Then there's the signup deadline of December 15th and the end of the open enrollment period in March. This story will be rearing its ugly head many times over the next half of a year. And unless Obama can pull some powerful magic out of his nether region, people will stay pissed off and his favorability will continue to plunge.
Posted - 11/15/2013 11:45:25 PM | show profile | flag this post
The polls back you up Quintessential?
I'm the one who cited the poll. The poll which proved Clinton left office VERY popular. If you can cite the poll that says otherwise, by all means, do.
As to vanity, Obama went in front of the cameras yesterday and admitted fault. A lot. A whole lot. If Obama were excessively vain he would find that impossible to do. What part of this is hard to wrap your mind around?
And that admitting fault thing the very thing we never saw from GW Bush.
Posted - 11/17/2013 2:58:52 PM | show profile | flag this post
Once the website is up and running...
People will get their insurance and his numbers will soar. Hopefully we can get rid of the obstructionist repubs in 2014 and Obama can fix the problems the repubs caused in the first place before he leaves in 2017 with approval numbers in the high 70s.
Posted - 11/17/2013 3:34:04 PM | show profile | flag this post
I doubt the website
will be up and fully functional before Obama leaves office. Typically when a contractor...in panic mode...starts trying to fix a system he breaks one or more new things every time he implements a "fix." They'll be chasing new problems for months or years.
The only way to deal with a system that is as badly hosed as this one appears to be is to scrap it and start over...with competent contractors. But I understand the polical and legacy ramifications that would have for Obama.
Posted - 11/17/2013 3:50:04 PM | show profile | flag this post
And the I HATE the U-S-A cheering section
...gets stoked up.
Yeah, let's return to the era of
--being turned down for pre-existing conditions
--being dropped...just because
--allowing insurance companies to make as much money as they possibly could, by denying recommended coverages
What do you have against people getting responsible health care?
Yeah, a funky web site is all the reason we need to turn around and head back into that clusterhealthcarefuck.
It never ceases to amaze me the degree to which some's hatred for Obama allows them to confuse issues. The era of predatory insurance is done. And that's a very good thing.
Posted - 11/17/2013 7:34:25 PM | show profile | flag this post
It never ceases to amaze me how
the Obamaphiles on here resemble the infamous three monkeys...hear no evil, see. no evil...
Posted - 11/18/2013 7:12:10 PM | show profile | flag this post
And that has to do with this thread
...how? Go ahead; lay it out.