How does a top network reporter break through the official White House talking points? ABC’s Chief White House Correspondent Jonathan Karl has been busy trying — and in the process has gotten into it twice over the last month with White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, including just yesterday.

In this installment of Media Beat, Karl spoke to TVNewser’s Jordan Chariton about the need to remain skeptical of what the White House is telling you, regardless of who’s in office. Karl also revealed some interesting behind-the-scenes tidbits from campaign 2012. You might be surprised to know how little Karl saw candidate Mitt Romney—even when flying on the same plane.