In his over 20 years in the fashion business, Elle creative director Joe Zee has worked for such titles as Details and Allure and styled advertising campaigns for companies like Gap and DKNY. And, in our Media Beat interview, the Toronto native and star of Sundance Channel’s All On the Line with Joe Zee was very clear about how he got to the top.

One: he worked for people he could learn from, namely legendary fashion stylist and editor Polly Mellen. (“She taught me what it was like to have a passion for something.”)

And, two, he worked his butt off. “I won’t put stock in people who tell me they wanna work in fashion, because they wanna be glamorous. They wanna be famous. They wanna be well known,” he said. “If you wanna be those things, wrong business.”

Part 1: Elle‘s Joe Zee Puts It All on the Line for Sundance Channel
Part 2: Elle‘s Joe Zee Reveals Exactly What a Magazine Creative Director Does

The May Allure gives readers an inside peek at the very personal world of Lindsay Lohan, via Judy Bachrach’s masterful interview. Bachrach, who recently told collegians to “never follow your editor’s advice”, must have used everything possible in her bag of tricks to get Lohan to spill stuff like this:

“I never passed out in my life! I never vomited from having drinks. Like in public. I would never do that. Well–” she amends, “a few times. Well, everyone does in high school. I’m not saying everyone.”

Bachrach’s tips for successful interviews with celebs include

acting as “their favorite therapist” and talking about yourself to make them feel more comfortable.

So, did Judy get down and dirty about her binge drinking bouts? Fabulous!

Lohan also admires Marilyn Monroe, but we all knew that.