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<title>Should You Write For Free? Journos Weigh In on the Thayer/Atlantic Kerfuffle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-83025" title="atlanticnay" src="http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlla/files/2013/03/atlanticnay1.jpg" alt="" width="226" height="284" />When freelance journalist <strong><a href="http://www.mediabistro.com/Nate-Thayer-profile.html">Nate Thayer</a></strong> posted an <a href="http://natethayer.wordpress.com/2013/03/04/a-day-in-the-life-of-a-freelance-journalist-2013/" target="_blank">email exchange</a> he&#8217;d had with an editor at <em>The Atlantic,</em> who hoped to publish his work without compensation, he had no idea it would garner so much attention. The blog post has been viewed over 100,000 times, tweeted like mad, and has prompted a vigorous debate among journalism professionals.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/03/05/the-problem-with-online-freelance-journalism/" target="_blank">Over at Reuters</a>, <strong><a href="http://www.mediabistro.com/Felix-Salmon-profile.html">Felix Salmon</a></strong> breaks down point-by-point where <em>The Atlantic</em> screwed up, while explaining why the magazine&#8217;s online freelance budget is so small as to be, at times, non-existent. It&#8217;s not that digital journalism doesn&#8217;t pay, he explains, it just rarely pays freelancers. If you want to make a living wage, you need a staff position.</p>
<p>Not everyone is against working for nothing. <strong><a href="http://www.mediabistro.com/Matthew-Yglesias-profile.html">Matthew Yglesias</a></strong> of <a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/03/05/writing_for_free_on_the_internet_it_s_a_huge_boon_to_society.html" target="_blank">Slate</a> calls it &#8220;an enormous boon to society&#8221; when people write online for free. Staffer-turned-freelancer <strong><a href="http://www.mediabistro.com/Ann-Friedman-profile.html">Ann Friedman</a> </strong>admits in her <a href="http://www.cjr.org/realtalk/freelancing_for_free_or_for_mo_1.php?page=all" target="_blank">column at CJR</a> that she occasionally writes for free, albeit only with good reasons. Those include establishing experience, raising her profile, or an opportunity to participate in something wonderful.</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlla/should-you-write-for-free-journos-weigh-in-on-the-thayeratlantic-kerfuffle_b82998#more-82998" class="more-link">continued&#8230;</a></p>
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<title>Naomi Wolf on Porn and Sex&#8211;Four Years Later, Debate Rages</title>
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<p><a href="http://feministing.com/archives/007091.html">Feministing</a> is all a-blaze over a <em>New York</em> magazine <a href="http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/trends/n_9437/index1.html"> story</a> by <strong>Naomi Wolf</strong> about the allegedly insidious effects of porn on sex lives of real people.</p>
<p><strong>Vanessa</strong> and the commentors are taking Wolf to task for her poorly researched piece. (0ne commenter, aka <a href="http://feministing.com/archives/007091.html#comment-82003">Stripper</a>, notes a &#8220;factual error&#8221; in the first sentence.)</p>
<p><strong>Matthew Yglesias</strong>, blogging at <a href="http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/05/the_porn_myth_myth.php">The Atlantic</a>, jumps manfully into the fray and takes 117 comments with him.</p>
<p><strong>Julian Sanchez</strong>, at <a href="http://juliansanchez.com/notes/archives/2007/05/hungry_like_the_wolf.php">Notes from the Lounge</a>, likes this quote from Wolf:</p>
<blockquote><p>In my gym, the 40-year-old women have adult pubic hair; the twentysomethings have all been trimmed and styled.</p></blockquote>
<p>and attributes this styling gap to penetration vs. oral.</p>
<p>And at each site, someone points out that the piece was <strong>a story in October 2003.</strong> Why let a few years stand in the way of a good rant?</p>
<p>(Note to <strong>Stripper</strong>&#8211;did you read past the first sentence?)</p>
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<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
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