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politically-correct GOP gags congress report
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| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 11/3/2012 8:22:32 AM | show profile | flag this post
there's nothing cons hate more then an independent non-paritisan agency, destroying their faith-based economic lies with an in-depth research and fact. They hate it even more than the right to Speech .. so they gag and censor and block . Facts are so politically-incorrect. ---------- "Nonpartisan Tax Report Withdrawn After G.O.P. Protest WASHINGTON — The Congressional Research Service has withdrawn an economic report that found no correlation between top tax rates and economic growth, a central tenet of conservative economic theory, after Senate Republicans raised concerns about the paper’s findings and wording. The decision, made in late September against the advice of the agency’s economic team leadership, drew almost no notice at the time. Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, cited the study a week and a half after it was withdrawn in a speech on tax policy at the National Press Club. But it could actually draw new attention to the report, which questions the premise that lowering the top marginal tax rate stimulates economic growth and job creation. “This has hues of a banana republic,” Mr. Schumer said. “They didn’t like a report, and instead of rebutting it, they had them take it down.” The pressure applied to the research service comes amid a broader Republican effort to raise questions about research and statistics that were once trusted as nonpartisan and apolitical. The Bureau of Labor Statistics on Friday will release unemployment figures for October, a month after some conservatives denounced its last report as politically tinged to abet President Obama’s re-election. When the bureau suggested its October report might be delayed by Hurricane Sandy, some conservatives immediately suggested politics were at play. Republicans have also tried to discredit the private Tax Policy Center ever since the research organization declared that Mitt Romney’s proposal to cut tax rates by 20 percent while protecting the middle class and not increasing the deficit was mathematically impossible. For years, conservatives have pressed the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office to factor in robust economic growth when it is asked to calculate the cost of tax cuts to the federal budget. Congressional aides and outside economists said they were not aware of previous efforts to discredit a study from the research service. “When their math doesn’t add up, Republicans claim that their vague version of economic growth will somehow magically make up the difference. And when that is refuted, they’re left with nothing more to lean on than charges of bias against nonpartisan experts,” said Representative Sander Levin of Michigan, ranking Democrat on the House Ways and Means Committee. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/02/business/questions-raised-on-withdrawal-of-congressional-research-services-report-on-tax-rates.html |
| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 11/3/2012 8:59:19 AM | show profile | flag this post
Well, of course... the report has to be wrong. Afterall, the GOP probably believes God struck New York with a hurricane because we haven't lowered taxes on the rich enough! |
| blackedtaped |
Posted - 11/3/2012 1:36:50 PM | show profile | flag this post
I wonder what is happening in Canada Does anyone know? It seems at least one of their citizens is totally obsessed with US conservatives so I guess nothing is happening there. I mean it is normal to be completely, totally obsessed about another country's politics, right? |
| orthicon |
Posted - 11/3/2012 2:28:24 PM | show profile | flag this post
well, when you share a few thousand miles of border.. and your economies are inextricably intertwined.. yeah, i think i'd be concerned.. wouldn't you? |
| mpdodgson |
Posted - 11/3/2012 2:35:43 PM | show profile | flag this post
I'm also reminded of the screaming from the Right that the US was turning into GREECE!!' Cause we're just like them!! And the "Europe austerity riots" would come to our shores any day now.... Not to mention the daily chalkboard rants from Glenn Beck (remember him?) that the Arab Spring was two setps away from a WORLD WIDE caliphate.... Look, I'm on record with blackedtape here thinking (with no evidence), that "cdn" is no more Canadian than my Hershey bar; but considering our close ties to our neighbors to the North--what happens on Tuesday is most definitely also their business. |
| blackedtaped |
Posted - 11/3/2012 3:19:55 PM | show profile | flag this post
I can't help but wonder... How some of you would think if our fake Canadian felt about "liberals" the way he does about "cons". I imagine if he was cutting and pasting right wing opinion pieces you would not be as welcoming. Seems to me back when he first "arrived" here during the Olympics you guys didn't take so kindly to his remarks. And if you actually think he is not a Canadian then how on earth could anything he writes be seen as a valid opinion? How can anyone pretending to be foreign offer an opinion based on a false premise and be taken seriously? |
| blackedtaped |
Posted - 11/3/2012 4:01:26 PM | show profile | flag this post
Well orthicon... How many Canadian political blogs do you contribute to? Do you spend any time looking for Mexican political forums since we share a border with them? Does anyone else on this forum spend any time at all on any political forums from any other country? I mean we share borders and their economic woes end up spreading here. If rational, reasonable, thinking people here don't spend their time on other country's forums doesn't that speak volumes about our little fake foreigner? |
| orthicon |
Posted - 11/3/2012 4:25:14 PM | show profile | flag this post
blacked.. the fact that you may have a personal issue.. about the identity of our "canadian" doesn't alter the fact that he/she/it tends to raise interesting points for debate.. and yes, i DO tend to monitor sources from canada and mexico.. once lived in canada, and have spent years covering issues and stories in mexico..it's only 21 miles as the crow flies from my front door, after all.. |
| mpdodgson |
Posted - 11/3/2012 5:48:08 PM | show profile | flag this post
I think somone is painting themselves into a corner Since when does being a "foreigner" automatically mean you can't comment on US Politics?? "I can't help but wonder...How some of you would think if our fake Canadian felt about "liberals" the way he does about "cons". I've got no problem with it as long as it's well written. Look at this cover sory--that liberal rag Newsweek: http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/08/19/niall-ferguson-on-why-barack-obama-needs-to-go.html Yea--Just another "in the tank for Obama" MSM POS--with the cover story "Hit the road Barack--Why We Need a New President"--written by a Brit who was an advisor to McCain. BUT his comments--on the cover of a lamestream media WH organ--THEY made perfect sense--to Republican readers. And let's look at the flip side; American commentators don't--because they shouldn't--comment on Putin, Chavez, or Castro?? So here's the conundrum--let's say cdn is a "fake" canadian? he's allowed his say. I think cruize is a "fake" veteran", so what? And if cdn really is a Canadian--his commenting on our politics is no different than us yelling at the Iranians/Chinese/Greeks/Koreans/Mexicans/Japanese etc. Fail to see the point here. |
| blackedtaped |
Posted - 11/3/2012 6:19:01 PM | show profile | flag this post
The point, Mpdodgson is so simple It seems to be sliding right past you. In the example you gave, exactly how much merit would you give to Ferguson if he was from Nebraska pretending to be British? You think Newsweek would give him one paragraph much less a cover story? How on God's green earth can you claim to be getting a foreign perspective from someone you think is NOT foreign? Look I have no say about this forum. This faker can have his say all he wants. I also can call him out for being the faker he is if I choose. But what continues to baffle me is how people that I used to think were reasonable, rationale people can read his gibberish and actually consider it worthy of discussion. I guess I just keep underestimating people. Oh well. |
| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 11/4/2012 11:20:51 AM | show profile | flag this post
Expect, Blacked ... .... the only person claiming I'm not canadian is you. I am canadian. If you have evidence, proof, that i am not: present it. Otherwise your argument is moot. But you ave nothing. just empty accusations. And at the end of the day, and in each of your posts, you fail because you refuse to address the substance of the argument and facts. Which is pretty much the whole Romney campaign and US con philosophy / movement these days. You don't like the facts i point out because of my nationality? Too bad. Facts don't recognize borders. and while were at it: Americans have no monopoly on freedom of speech. In fact your founders took it from the French and British, which is you knew anything about Canada or the world, have a much better track record on responsible speech, especially political speech, these days than your Great Republic. |
| blackedtaped |
Posted - 11/4/2012 12:52:34 PM | show profile | flag this post
Faker, er cdnreprtr Let's cut to the chase here. I know you from the old board, you keep ignoring that fact. On that board you pretended to be British, then you switched to Canadian when you slipped up and forgot to change your board name. But let's pretend for one moment you really are Canadian. I will not discuss US election politics with someone who cannot vote. Period. I can see the merit in discussing US policies especially international policy but I will not get into a pissing match with you regarding US candidates. You arrive on the scene here just before the Presidential elections. You did not give a rat's ass about this country until the election season. Come back after the election and let's talk about US foreign policy if you care. But I will not respond to your continuous attacks on US republicans. |
| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 11/4/2012 4:04:53 PM | show profile | flag this post
Fine. then don't discuss it. That is your right. Don't respond to my posts. ignore them. shut up. But your fantasies about my identity doesn't trump my right to speech, and certainly doesn't negate the facts and arguments. The FACT is the GOP stifled a non partisan Congressional Research Service report that found no correlation between top tax rates and economic growth, a central tenet of conservative economic theory. Thats true everywhere, across all borders. attacking me for my citizenship doesn't make it less true. And it certainly reveals a lot about you. Not as an american. But as an individual seemingly incapable of launching a counter argument. Or, more likely, simply more interested in defending a bankrupt ideology, record of lies, and trail of damage that is American "conservatism" (which, really, has nothing to do with and is an insult to conservatives in every other part of the world) |
| blackedtaped |
Posted - 11/4/2012 5:19:10 PM | show profile | flag this post
Does that "free speech" Work both ways? Doesn't it mean I can continue to remind people of exactly what you are? Sucks doesn't it? At least after Tuesday you will crawl back under what ever board name you used before the election. |
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