BBC World News America anchor Matt Frei spoke with NBC Nightly News anchor Brian Williams for Frei’s BBC Radio 4 programme, “Americana.” (like how we added the -mme?)

During the show, Williams describes himself to the UK audience as a “Rapidly graying, hunched over, 50-year-old white American male, college drop-out, came up the hard way, six-feet tall, slim build, increasingly haggard looking” anchorman.

He also talks about his fantasy of being a rock star.

Listen here…