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| newscred |
Posted - 11/1/2012 3:40:48 PM | show profile | flag this post
Latest information (not yet verified) regarding the Libyan murders of our ambassador and 3 other americans is that a rescue team was told to stand down after they were set to go in. Haven't heard word one of this or any other Libya related story since hurricane Sandy hit New York. The hurricane is a huge story for sure but this election is huge as well. It will determine if we continue to be identified as Americans or as european social-democrats.
Sadly I think if Sandy hadn't come along to fill the airwaves, our news media would have still ignored the Libyan story. The majority seem to be in the pocket of this administration.
Obviously this is an opinion piece.
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 11/1/2012 4:02:57 PM | show profile | flag this post
You're late to the game...
this was a story LAST week.
This wasn't a days-long, protracted battle. It was over in a matter of hours from the time of the first contact. There were no U.S. forces on the ground in Libya ready to respond to an attack. The nearest forces, with USAFRICOM, were in Europe.
And, I'll forgive you for never having been in combat, but there is a lot of confusion when a battle breaks out -- communication breaks down and commanders have to carefully weigh their options before acting.
Otherwise, you have a "Blackhawk Down" situation.
From American Forces Press Service:
-- During a Pentagon news conference, Panetta and Army Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, each said the United States had service members in the area prepared to respond to any contingency.
“I feel confident that our forces were alert and responsive to what was a very fluid situation,” the chairman said.
Panetta said that without real-time information about what was happening, he, Dempsey and Army Gen. Carter F. Ham, who leads U.S. Africa Command, all “felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”
The relatively short duration of the attack, the secretary said, meant “it was really over before … we had the opportunity to really know what was happening.”
http://www.defense.gov//News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=118345
If you complain about waiting four hours to respond -- remember, the Bush administration waited nearly a month before firing a shot at al Qaida in Afghanistan for the 9/11 attacks.
That was a prudent and strategically prudent move.
It is a shame this incident -- and the deaths of Americans -- are being politicized by the right.
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| cruster |
Posted - 11/1/2012 9:45:25 PM | show profile | flag this post
Yeah Why Aren't We Seeing Stories Like This?
CIA rushed to save diplomats as Libya attack was underway
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-rushed-to-save-diplomats-as-libya-attack-was-underway/2012/11/01/c93a4f96-246d-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_story.html
So now the Obama administration is releasing facts to cover their trail.
Typical.
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| newscred |
Posted - 11/2/2012 4:00:38 PM | show profile | flag this post
there's something that smells in Washington, DC
I was in combat and yes, it is chaotic. But we're not talking in this case about what was going on in the combat zone itself. We're talking about our country's effort, if any, to launch a rescue during the 7 hours those americans were under siege. Indications are that political sympathies or worries at the executive level may have entered the decision making process of whether or not to try a rescue. If that's the case, we as citizens deserve to know. Question is why the U.S. press is so willing to simply bury the story. We all understand news cycles, but this story has elements that give it ongoing importance, something that in the old days journalists would actually dig into and report on, no matter who the president was.
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| orthicon |
Posted - 11/2/2012 5:05:05 PM | show profile | flag this post
aww..poor newscred..
the cia comes out with a timeline that they can and do back up with drone video, showing response inside 24 minutes..
but that's not good enough for rightwingnutia..because it doesn't fit the "facts" the far right "media" is flogging.. so we'll just ignore that, and rely on things like fox's by-now-totally-discredited story..
desperation sweat is not an appealing odor, is it?
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 11/2/2012 8:18:21 PM | show profile | flag this post
Newscred...
have you missed the timeline that came out from the CIA on Thursday?
ALL the national media -- except apparently FAUX -- carried the story.
The first U.S. response -- made up of CIA special security officers and Libyan allies -- engaged the attackers just 24 minutes after the FIRST distress call.
U.S. Special Forces troops joined them shortly afterwards after flying in from Tripoli.
More Special Forces troops were mobilized in Sicily and even more here in the U.S., but the U.S. and allied Libyan militas had beaten the attackers before they could arrive.
There was never any order to stand down.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/11/new-detailed-account-of-benghazi-attack-notes-cias-quick-response/
The big question is, why has FOX News ignored this story?
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| newscred |
Posted - 11/2/2012 10:24:50 PM | show profile | flag this post
I disagree
etaoin...this administration lies so much about so many things, what are we to believe. My opinion...the guy in the oval office thinks more about himself than anyone else...including our troops. Now, after weeks, a CIA timeline that is put out there. Nothing super secret about it, so why the delay. Hmmmm
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 11/2/2012 10:59:11 PM | show profile | flag this post
Then why do the tapes from the drone...
over the consulate back up the CIA statements in real time?
Looks like FAUX News owes the American people -- and the CIA special forces who died that night -- a major apology.
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| orthicon |
Posted - 11/2/2012 11:13:58 PM | show profile | flag this post
the proof, newslackofcred, is right there on the tape..
doesn't fit your rightwingnut criteria, so you can just go ahead and ignore it..
keep right on attacking the president on this one..
we need the belly laughs every time you post..
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