Las Vegas magician and “Celebrity Apprentice” contestant Penn Jillette appeared on Glenn Beck‘s TheBlaze TV this week. Jillette, a libertarian who is as comfortable with the Hollywood set as he is with Republicans like Donald Trump, is good friends with MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell.

O’Donnell, it turns out, really wants to meet Beck:

“He said, you know, ‘I would love to sit down with Glenn Beck and talk privately.’ He said, ‘We have a lot in common.’ And he went on and on like that, then said, ‘but you know, with our jobs and where we are it will probably never happen.’”