So What Do You Do, Paul Slavin, ABC News Digital Senior VP?
This network TV vet reveals his strategy for keeping ABC's 'historic' brand competitive in the digital age
February 25, 2009
When Paul Slavin took control of ABC News' digital properties in September 2007, he had little experience in the realm of online news, which was -- and continues to be -- rapidly evolving. Since then, he's had a crash course in the tools and economics of content online, which he describes as undergoing a "revolution" as a result of the 3G iPhone and the movement of television out of the home. He will appear as a panelist to speak about "The Digital Network" at the TVNewser Summit in New York on March 10. Here he talks to mediabistro.com about his chance start at ABC, how mobile content is reshaping TV news, and his company's experiments with social media.
Name: Paul Slavin Position: Senior vice president, ABC News Digital Resume: A chance internship with ABC's radio division after undergrad set Slavin on a career with the network that has lasted 30 years. Having started as a desk assistant, he went on to many positions throughout the company, including stints as the producer of World News Tonight and as senior vice president for Worldwide Newsgathering. He became ABC's head of digital news in 2007. Birthdate: November 16, 1956 Hometown: Chevy Chase, Md. Education: BA from the University of Chicago, graduate work at New York University. Marital status: Married with three children. Favorite TV show: The Sopranos Last book read: Gettysburg, by Stephen Sears
How did you get started in the news business? I had just finished my undergraduate degree at the University of Chicago and was going to finish my degree in either law or economics -- and I needed some time off. I moved to New York in pursuit of a woman, planning to hang out here for a little while and get a job. I was at the Ford Foundation interviewing for a job, where they very unceremoniously told me that I wasn't "their kind of people." I didn't have enough money for the subway back home (if that tells you what my financial situation was like), so I walked -- and on my walk back I saw WABC, walked in the door, and asked if they had any jobs. They said, "No, but the network might -- they're hiring anybody." So I walked up the street to personnel, and I interviewed for a job doing overnight radio. The guy asked me if I could start that night. I said sure, and so I ended up as an overnight desk assistant in radio. I had no experience and no inclination toward it, and I thought I'd only be there for a short time. And the rest is history. I've never left the mothership since then.
So you had no training in journalism beforehand?
What was the transition like from World News Tonight and TV news to your current position as the head of digital? I really find this whole space flat-out fascinating. I think the whole silo-ing of digital or new media or broadcast is a thing of the past. As soon as our companies start realizing that it's all just one giant multi-platform content delivery system, the better for all of us. But it's complicated and chaotic and fascinating to be involved in it.
How is "understanding your audience" different online than it is in a network newscast? A recent study found that the greatest growth in Facebook is in 45-and-older; it's no longer an 18-year-old demo. So it's evolving. Whereas World News has been a very clear group of folks that you got to know pretty well -- it wasn't changing platform-to-platform, and it wasn't changing year-over-year. If you were interested in the evening news, there used to only be three places to go at 6:30; and if you're interested in that kind of news, then there are really only a few more places to go. If you're interested in new media [news], there are three million places to go. So your competition is huge.
But of course you're still bringing the ABC News brand with you.
There's been a big debate recently -- particularly as concerns newspapers -- about micropayments, and other ways of paying for news on the Internet. ABC News originally had a subscription service, which was discontinued. Is there any idea of reviving that? But it is not inconceivable that a reader will pay for content if it is of a high enough value and they are getting enough for their money. The question is, do we have enough of that content that we can create at any given time?... I don't know that much else that we do would necessarily lend itself to micropayments, but that doesn't mean you don't look into other content areas that might fit.
As old media companies go online, they have different kind of content that they are leveraging. How is television-backed Web news different than, say, a newspaper site?
With this broadband and mobile penetration, do you think that there will be more of an emphasis in video over text in news?
How does social media fit into ABC's plans, and are you doing any kind of new stuff in that space? We've not had a lot of success with social media to date. We were one of the first news organizations to partner with Facebook, and that was really successful for what it was -- but we haven't really figured out social media. I think it's important, but it takes a tremendous amount of resources for us to get involved in. We will continue to look at it, but I couldn't tell you 100 percent that social media is the way we're going to go for our news product. But I think it's incumbent on us to experiment with it, and have conversations with social media providers, and see whether or not it can be an effective driver for us. It's definitely a tool, [we just need to find out whether] it can be more than a tool.
What do you mean by "tremendous" resources? What's involved?
David Hirschman is editor of mediabistro.com's Daily Media Newsfeed. [This interview has been edited for length and clarity.] |
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