Late-Night Situation: Tucker Carlson Calls It A “Bold” Move By MSNBC’s President
The 11pm time slot sits on cable schedules “like a prize,” but none of the networks have put live programming in it.
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After all, “it requires a real commitment of resources,” MSNBC president Rick Kaplan said. “It’s cheaper to just run your schedule, turn it around and run it over again.”![]()
But that will change on Monday, August 8, when The Situation with Tucker Carlson moves to late-night.![]()
“I told the network back in December or January that we were going to do an 11pm show,” Kaplan told TVNewser this afternoon. “What we really created for Tucker was a late-night show, but the hole in the schedule at that moment was nine, so we figured ‘Okay we’ll premiere it, we’ll fill the schedule.’”![]()
Once Rita Cosby signed with the network, it was prime time for a shakeup.![]()
“Everybody at our network loves the idea of going to 11pm. The HUT levels are pretty much the same and it’s a really strong time slot,” Kaplan said, noting that 15 to 20 percent of MSNBC’s audience comes from the West Coast.![]()
Kaplan said he’s been pleased by “the progress” of MSNBC’s primetime ratings. The Situation has averaged only 201,000 viewers since it premiered.![]()
“I know how difficult the 9pm time slot has been — frankly, they’re all difficult time slots — but I think Tucker has done very well,” Kaplan said. He referenced the comments, on this blog and elsewhere, that it takes time to develop a cohesive panel of commentators.![]()
The first question to Carlson was obvious: Are you ready to go up against Jon Stewart?![]()
“Jon Stewart’s got a funny show, Jon Stewart’s a funny guy” — when he’s not acting like an associate journalism professor, Carlson said. “I think we’re going after a different audience.”![]()
Broadcasting & Cable says the move appears “to be a vote of low-confidence for Tucker Carlson.” But Kaplan and Carlson say that’s not true: The bow-tied host discussed a late-night show with Kaplan before he even came to MSNBC. “This is what I’ve wanted to do for a long time,” he said.![]()
He continued: “This is a chance for Fox viewers, CNN viewers, people who are tired of reruns, to find a first-run program…It’s a huge move, from my perspective, on MSNBC’s part. As Rick said, it’s a commitment of resources. It’s a big deal. Other networks haven’t wanted to do it because it costs money, but MSNBC is bold enough to do it.”![]()
> Update: 11:50pm: HUD has been changed to HUT. Thanks to the e-mails for pointing out the error; I published this quickly…

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