In the video embedded above, ABC News pitted a 12-year-old boy from a bestselling book against a physicist with some bestselling books, asking the classic question: “Does heaven exist?”

On Sunday, Stephen Hawking told The Guardian: “I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail. There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark.”

Journalist Diane Sawyer challenged the physicist through an interview with Colton Burpo,  the boy who recounted his near-death experience and trip to heaven in the popular book, Heaven Is for Real. What’s your opinion about the newest installment of this age-old debate?