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White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs was interviewed by Chuck Todd, who sat in for Chris Matthews yesterday afternoon on MSNBC’s Hardball. Gibbs came to the interview in a joking manner, laying out some light hearted comments about him and Todd being out of shape.

One of the hot topics covered in the interview was the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy, which some have said the administration have changed their stance on. They at first opposed it and are now being a bit more vague by “saying they want Congress to do it,” according to the Huffington Post’s Nicholas Graham.

On a more macro-level, Gibbs did re-enforce the Obama campaign message of change when he said, “the easiest thing for this town to do is the same old thing.”