While Mitt Romney appears to be the winner of last night’s first presidential debate, Big Bird and Jim Lehrer — two of PBS’s biggest stars — seem to be the losers.

On CNN this morning anchor Carol Costello talked with PBS president and CEO Paula Kerger who was stunned that Romney brought up the PBS funding issue. Kerger said the value of PBS goes beyond Sesame Street or The Newshour. She said she’s just visited a PBS affiliate KBTC in Tacoma where the station is working with the local school system.