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Building her eponymous public relations and communications firm from the ground up with Davis and then number one box office draw Eddie Murphy as her first two clients, sheís represented Hollywood and corporate American royalty from Prince to Time Warner. After going public with her experience with clinical depression, Williams has also become a celebrated evangelist for mental health care, using the skills she honed in her 25+ year career to create buzz around a hushed and under-discussed issue. Here, she talks leadership, people skills and how personal suffering can become a social contribution.
Most publicists launching their own firms donít pull in high-end clients off the break. What was your strategy to attract and retain that caliber of clientele when your agency was in its infancy?
You know what it is? I honor people. This might sound simplistic, but I know that everybody on the planet matters. I was at a birthday party and Eddie [Murphy] was there with his cousin and friend. I knew everybody wanted something from him. Heís an enormously talented superstar. People donít pay attention to the people who are with him. When you donít honor everybody, you lose out because itís the person that you think doesnít matter that the talent will ask, ďWhat did you think about Terrie?Ē If you havenít paid any attention to them, what do you think theyíre going to say? Iím genuine, so itís not calculated. I wasnít trying to get in good with his cronies or whatever. I just knew that he was going to pay me but so much attention, so I just started talking with the two guys he was with. We were at the party for four or five hours but after that, Eddie was going to a comedy club to perform. Those two guys asked if my guest and I wanted to go. I know for a fact if I had been trying to cozy up to Eddie, I wouldnít have gotten that invitation. I was grateful in terms of what I sent to them to say Ďthank youí -- notes and everything -- and then I began to be invited to parties at Eddieís home.
|"The greatest thing that one can do is to speak your truth. Nothing can beat that. People can see through if youíre making up a PR spin."|
Then one day I heard that Eddie was looking for a PR person. He had never had one. I was kind of self-taught. I took two six or eight-week courses, but I didnít major in it in college or grad school. I knew I was supposed to represent him. I just knew. So I wrote him a letter. I said, ĎYou donít really know me, but Iíve been to parties at your home and we met at Milesí [Davis] birthday party. And this is who I am. I would love to represent you.í I got a phone call maybe two weeks later and a voice said, ĎEddieís here. He wants to talk to you.í He got on the phone and just said, ĎI would love to have you represent me.í Just like that. I was in tears on the other end. I launched my business with him. Because Eddie was on board, Miles wanted me to represent him. So very early on, all eyes were on me like, ĎWho is this person? Who does she think she is?í
Youíre also a licensed therapist, which, along with your career in public relations, is a unique combination of experience. How has that education enhanced your PR sensibilities?
Itís everything. Itís innate and it helps me to see people. When I meet you, I want to know who you really are, not the mask that you wear every day. People move through the world with their masks on, so they donít often give you a chance to see them. We feel like weíve got to have the upper hand and know everything and be perfect. I have my frailties, pain and challenges, so I know that youíre just like me. I donít care who you are or what your position is. Thatís one of the things thatís served me really well. I care about the person thatís underneath that mask.
What has been your greatest professional lesson and where were you when you learned it?
I think itís listening to your inner voice because it always tells you what to do. Eddieís management didnít want me to represent him because I wasnít traditional Hollywood. Iím a person of color and I was five minutes in the game. After a year perhaps, maybe two, I got a phone call that said Ďeffective immediately, Eddie is going to have a new PR person in addition to you.í I donít remember her name, but I know she handled Tom Cruise and a bunch of other people. I knew what was going to unfold: Even though Iíd been doing all of his press, this new person would be handling mainstream press and they would relegate me to black press.
|"The ability to attract, engage and hold onto talent should be a companyís number one concern."|
I wasnít going to take two steps backward, not after all of that time, so I sent Eddie a resignation letter. It wasnít an easy decision, but it was at the same time because I was being disrespected. About two months later, I saw him at his brotherís wedding and he said, ĎSo how come you didnít want to work with me?í I explained what happened and Monday I got a phone call from the manager saying that person was no longer on board. It wasnít about power play. I just I knew what was going to happen and Iím glad I listened to myself.
In an era when even advanced degrees sometimes arenít advanced enough, do you think weíre too oversaturated with learning and underinvested in the actual doing?
Thatís a good question. Yes, I do. The only way to work what youíve learned is to practice. I think some people are running from things. Sometimes weíll do anything to not feel pain or struggle. We self-medicate with a myriad of things to not deal with ourselves: food, work, promiscuity, gambling, unprotected sex, going to school. When are you going to break out? I think itís important to be current, but not at the risk of having an unfulfilling life. That just means youíre running from something. A good therapist is always the answer. God and a good therapist have gotten me through time and time again.
What have you done as a leader to bring the best out of your people and make your agency even more effective?
The ability to attract, engage and hold onto talent should be a companyís number one concern, but itís not enough to hire the right people. Think about the whole person. They have to be fulfilled as human beings and your job is to create that kind of atmosphere. Itís simple but itís also kind of revolutionary because thatís not the way that people think. Keep your people engaged in what it is youíre doing by giving them the tools that they need to become what drives them internally. The employee wants to become the best version of him or herself. Iím a social worker to the core, so I can never not look at who you are as a person. What are your dreams, goals, aspirations? What is the pain in your life? What keeps you from being the very best that you can be? It canít be impersonal. Yeah, I expect them to kick ass and produce. But the only way youíre going to come to our space whole and able to do that is to know that youíre cared about.
Mental health advocacy is a huge part of your personal and professional interests. What has been the most measureable reward of sharing your personal struggle with depression, particularly in the African-American community?
When I went public about my depression in an Essence magazine story, more than 10,000 people responded, which led me to write my book because people were saying, ĎGirl, my best friends and family members donít know that Iím strong on the outside, dying on the inside.í Weíre all dealing with stuff and I just felt that it was important to speak to African-Americans, for whom therapy is a badge of shame. I donít believe anyone is born bad, mad or evil.
|"Keep your people engaged in what it is youíre doing by giving them the tools that they need to become what drives them internally."|
Life happens to you and it changes who you are. You donít get help and that unresolved trauma starts to get to you. In the workplace or in your relationship, you might say something and the person youíre talking to goes completely off and youíre like, what did I do? What did I say? It was simply that you triggered something that happened to that person and they never dealt with it. You get that immediate reaction. In the workplace, itís really important to keep that in mind because many times, itís not personal. It doesnít have a single thing to do with you, but itís some unresolved pain. We all inherit unresolved pain, wounds, trauma and scars from our parents. Horrific things happen to people and they donít get help, so if you say something that triggers it, Iím going off on you.
It seems like someone is always in the news for saying or doing something that generates shock, shame or public ridicule. As a student of both public relations and human behavior, whatís your advice for healing a career after one of these mess-ups?
I think the greatest thing that one can do is to speak your truth. Nothing can beat that. People can see through if youíre making up a PR spin. People understand that. I think when you are true to yourself and donít make excuses, then you win.
Youíre kicking off a lifestyle series based on your passion for self-care and philosophy of personal reinvention. What will that project look like and when will it launch?
Iíve been kind of doing it informally. I speak at a lot of colleges and corporations, and what I really do is simple. I will share parts of my story and othersí stories to get people to open up. Itís really amazing. My friends and family and staff knew I had anger issues. I was the last one to realize it. It came out in therapy. Somebody violates you in some way, your spirit or your body, and you have nowhere to go with it, but somebodyís going to get it. So I ended up having to apologize to friends and staff people as well because there was something else that was really making me angry and I hadnít dealt with it. The only reason I can stand up and say this to people is because I know Iím not the only one with anger issues. I had a meeting about a year ago. People started sharing and the tears started flowing. That doesnít happen at corporations. You donít let people see you sweat.
If you could have a 20-something Terrie Williams as your intern now, what would you tell her to do differently?
Listen to your freakiní inner voice. You know in your gut whatís right but either fear sets in or something keeps you from listening. There are always other forces crowding the good sense you have. Follow your inner voice and be true to it. I know this is about media, but the underlying core is our shared humanity. It impacts how effective we are in particular roles. If you look at a lot of different media personalities, you wonder what drives them because of certain things that they say or do. Even though you donít know what that personís journey is, you know they have one and it colors everything about who they are. Assume thereís something you donít know that had a profound impact on that person.
Janelle Harris resides in Washington, D.C., frequents Twitter and lives on Facebook.
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